| 06:15 | <hagabaka> | hmm, still have to use <a> for linking? |
| 07:39 | <deltab> | hagabaka: if you mean making something the target of a link, no; that's not been necessary since HTML4 |
| 07:40 | <deltab> | hagabaka: instead you can set an id attribute on almost any element |
| 07:41 | <deltab> | <a href="#section2">section 2</a> ... <div id="section2"> ... |
| 08:14 | <boblet> | hey all, anyone know what’s up with validator.nu profiles? Pedagogical and polyglot don’t seem to be active |
| 10:34 | <Hixie> | http://www.hixie.ch/tests/adhoc/html/navigation/unload/001.html |
| 10:43 | <annevk42> | fwiw, I've often been bit by not changing enctype and type=file |
| 10:45 | <annevk42> | the spec should maybe have some kind of warning around type=file |
| 10:45 | <annevk42> | or an example |
| 10:46 | <annevk42> | Hixie, fun, didn't even know we supported onunload |
| 10:57 | <remysharp> | Hixie mentioned some time ago how many different type of heading elements there were, do you know if it was 18 or 22? |
| 11:19 | <zcorpan_> | caption,dt,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,hgroup,label,legend,optgroup,rt,th,title ... are 15 |
| 11:28 | <zcorpan_> | "The applet element is a Java-specific variant of the embed element. The applet element is now obsoleted so that all extension frameworks (Java, .NET, Flash, etc) are handled in a consistent manner." |
| 11:28 | <zcorpan_> | is .NET a client-side extension framework? |
| 11:28 | <annevk42> | works in Silverlight I think |
| 11:29 | <zcorpan_> | ah |
| 11:33 | <gsnedders_> | Hixie: Do you have any way of manually adding people to the list yourself? |
| 11:33 | <gsnedders_> | Actually, I know you do in Mailman… |
| 11:33 | <webben> | it's a bit meaningless to count all 6 hX elements as a types of heading elements. |
| 11:34 | <gsnedders_> | Hixie: Seeming I can't get subscribed to it myself, can you try adding gsnedders@op? Also, look to see if gsneddon@op is subscribed? |
| 11:55 | <Philip`> | webben: Why? They are elements, and they have heading-related semantics |
| 11:56 | <Philip`> | so it seems justifiable to include them in a count of heading elements |
| 11:57 | <Philip`> | "There are already about 18 elements in HTML that have some kind of semantic that basically boils down to "heading" (<head> <title> <h1> - <h6> <hgroup> <header> <strong> <caption> <thead> <th> <label> <legend> <optgroup> <dt>)" |
| 12:09 | <daedb> | Philip`: Why is <strong> in that list? |
| 12:30 | <Philip`> | daedb: Ask Hixie :-) |
| 13:02 | <daedb> | Hixie: Why is <strong> included in the 18-element heading list? |
| 13:20 | <webben> | daedb: I guess because headings are important text? |
| 13:20 | <webben> | Full disclosure: I've used <strong> in the past when I ran out of h-levels. |
| 14:40 | <Dashiva> | So if there's no @version, RDFa content is assumed to be the most recent version, and they're expecting incompatible changes between versions. Sounds like fun. |
| 16:46 | <Dashiva> | Maybe the inline bug report feature should have a note suggesting people include rationales |
| 16:53 | <Philip`> | Dashiva: A single-line text box seems to actively discourage rationales |
| 16:55 | <Dashiva> | Maybe there should be two boxes, one for the comment and another for rationale. That might be even more effective than a single, larger box. |
| 16:55 | <Philip`> | Don't want to discourage people from quick comments on typos etc, though |
| 16:56 | <Philip`> | Extra boxes might scare people away |
| 16:59 | <Dashiva> | I don't think losing typo corrections is a big deal, as those can be fixed without any process at all |
| 16:59 | <Dashiva> | Whereas technical changes lead to discussion and can take quite a bit of time to resolve |
| 17:13 | <jgraham> | I think the feedback thing should have something like Summary: [ ] and Description (optional): [ ] to make it work for typos and other feedback too |
| 17:14 | <Dashiva> | I don't think that'd help for cases like [Bug 7886] New: Drop applet, marquee |
| 17:17 | <jgraham> | Hmm... I don't really see what the problem would be. The second box would allow people to provide long rationale |
| 17:20 | <Dashiva> | Allow, but it wouldn't encourage |
| 17:22 | <jgraham> | Sure but it should be pretty obvious that if you put "drop applet, marquee" with no extra information that doesn't constitute actionable feedback |
| 20:58 | <Hixie> | http://www.hixie.ch/tests/adhoc/html/navigation/unload/ |
| 23:18 | <caution> | are frames/iframes removed from the html5 standard? |
| 23:18 | <Hixie> | frames are, iframes aren't |
| 23:19 | <Hixie> | frames were also removed from html4 |