| 00:20 | <Hixie> | jlebar: yeah, i could see an argument along those lines. Is there mail about it? |
| 00:22 | <jlebar> | Hixie: Yes, but it's hidden. :) Thread titled "AJAX History Concerns". Mail from me (justin.lebar⊙gc) on Nov 13. |
| 00:23 | <Hixie> | in that case i should get to it in due course |
| 00:23 | <Hixie> | is it urgent? |
| 00:24 | <Hixie> | i can move it up the list if it's urgent, though i'm swamped with mail right now so it'll still be a while |
| 00:25 | <jlebar> | Hixie: I think we're going to land pushstate soon, and although I've been saying that for a few months now, I finally have a few reviews done on it, so I think it might actually happen in the near future. It would be nice not to change it after we land it. |
| 00:25 | <Hixie> | ah, ok |
| 00:26 | <Hixie> | let me see, hold on |
| 00:26 | <jlebar> | I can go ahead and just take out the title parameter. We certainly don't have to have the replacement specified when we land pushstate. |
| 00:27 | <jlebar> | * by "the replacement", I mean the functionality for changing the history entry title by other means than push/replaceState. |
| 00:31 | <Hixie> | i need to start writing down my stack |
| 00:31 | Hixie | pops back down to jlebar's request |
| 00:54 | <Hixie> | jlebar: replied to your e-mail |
| 00:56 | <jlebar> | Hixie: Thanks. |
| 01:01 | <miketaylr> | brb |
| 01:37 | <jlebar> | Hixie: I just replied, but I'm going to get dinner now. |
| 02:12 | <Hixie> | http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ#What_are_the_various_versions_of_the_spec.3F |
| 02:12 | <Hixie> | ! |
| 02:30 | <TabAtkins> | Hixie: Are you surprised that someone put it together? |
| 02:32 | <Hixie> | no, i just did |
| 02:32 | <Hixie> | i'm just surprised as to how long it turned out |
| 02:35 | <TabAtkins> | It is pretty damned long, I must admit. |
| 02:35 | <TabAtkins> | Clearly there are many representations of that resource. ^_^ |
| 02:36 | <Hixie> | or there are many resources generated from the same source document :-P |
| 02:37 | <Hixie> | and it doesn't even include the out-of-date versions like the /TR/ page |
| 03:24 | <jlebar> | Hixie: The < in the example you just added with updating the title each second doesn't come through right. |
| 04:35 | <Hixie> | jlebar: fixed, thanks |
| 08:26 | <hsivonen> | gsnedders: what's the situation with the html5lib test suite and the state of the spec? are the tests up-to-date? |
| 08:32 | <hsivonen> | http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker times out for me |
| 08:33 | <hsivonen> | is Dreamhost dreaming againg? |
| 08:34 | <hsivonen> | awesome. dreamhoststatus.com doesn't load in a reasonable time, either. |
| 08:34 | <hsivonen> | http://twitter.com/dhstatus/status/6002999309 |
| 09:07 | <jgraham> | hsivonen: AFAIK gsnedders went and changed html5lib to match current spec so the tests should be up to date |
| 09:08 | <jgraham> | No promises and certainly no suggestion that all the intersting changed cases are covered |
| 09:09 | <hsivonen> | jgraham: ok. thanks |
| 09:43 | <gsnedders> | hsivonen: It's also quite likely that I missed some bits of the spec that had changed |
| 09:47 | <gsnedders> | Is it just me or is hixie.ch down? |
| 09:47 | <gsnedders> | Oh, DH network failure. Great. |
| 09:48 | <hsivonen> | gsnedders: ok. thanks |
| 10:34 | <Hixie> | dreamhost is back up for people who were complaining |
| 10:35 | <hsivonen> | great |
| 10:35 | <hsivonen> | doesn't look like it |
| 10:35 | <hsivonen> | html5.org and whatwg.org don't respond |
| 10:36 | <Hixie> | the network is back up |
| 10:36 | <Philip`> | What about for people who weren't complaining? |
| 10:36 | <Hixie> | the machines seem to be overloaded |
| 10:36 | <Hixie> | but they respond to ping |
| 10:36 | <Hixie> | and can be sshed into |
| 10:36 | <Hixie> | Philip`: i wasn't telling those people :-) |
| 10:37 | <Hixie> | hm, ssh broke |
| 10:37 | <Hixie> | still responding to pings though |
| 10:45 | <Hixie> | http seems to be back |
| 10:49 | <Philip`> | Hixie: In case you don't read it in IRC logs: SVN is inaccessible, and http://svn.whatwg.org/ gives a "Forbidden" error |
| 10:49 | <Hixie> | yeah, already reported it to them |
| 10:49 | <Hixie> | no idea why |
| 10:49 | <Hixie> | i created another repo and that one works fine |
| 10:53 | jgraham | wonders if dreamhost were imagining the kind of dream where you are being chased by monsters inexplicably wearing your pyjamas when they chose their name |
| 10:54 | <Lachy> | jgraham, they would have called themselves Nightmarehost if that was the case. |
| 14:14 | <hsivonen> | has <body> in 'after head' always set frameset-ok to 'not ok'? |
| 14:16 | <annevk2> | Hixie, you should look into fixing http://svn.whatwg.org/ |
| 14:16 | <annevk2> | Hixie, if you're back and all |
| 14:16 | <annevk2> | Hixie, hmm, guess you're asleep now |
| 14:20 | <Philip`> | annevk2: He said he'd contacted Dreamhost about it already |
| 14:21 | <annevk2> | coolio |
| 15:40 | <Lachy> | I need to decide whether or not to incorporate any of these tests into the selectors api test suite, which is now mostly complete http://www.hixie.ch/tests/adhoc/dom/selectors/001.html |
| 15:40 | <Lachy> | the only tests that are failing are in WebKit, which has a strange NodeList implementation |
| 15:41 | <Lachy> | nodelist.elementid returns an element in the list with that ID, if it exists. (see tests 011 and 082) |
| 15:42 | <Lachy> | I'm not sure why it does that, but the NodeList behaviour doesn't really seem to be in scope of selectors api |
| 15:42 | <Lachy> | (beyond the list being static, rather than live) |
| 15:48 | <Philip`> | It seems "in scope" in the sense that it is a bug which could be encountered by an author who is using the Selectors API |
| 15:48 | <Philip`> | and so it's directly beneficial to the Selectors API if the bug is identified and fixed |
| 19:00 | <hsivonen> | Is there a way to track the Google Desktop integration story? (the HTML5 parser currently breaks an API that was introduced for Google Desktop) |
| 19:04 | <hsivonen> | oops wrong window |