| 00:01 | <TabAtkins> | Wow, most complex chord I've ever had to type. Ctrl+Shift+Alt+S |
| 00:03 | <peol> | export for web devices? |
| 00:03 | <Hixie> | TabAtkins: not an emacs user i assume |
| 00:04 | <TabAtkins> | peol: Well, sorta. Generate db schema in HTML. |
| 00:04 | <TabAtkins> | Hixie: No, and that's why. |
| 00:04 | <TabAtkins> | Hixie: Also, elisp. Yuck. Worst extant dialect of Lisp ever. |
| 00:04 | <Hixie> | hehe |
| 00:05 | <TabAtkins> | peol: What program does that option match with this chord? |
| 00:05 | <peol> | TabAtkins: Photoshop |
| 00:05 | <TabAtkins> | Ah, kk. |
| 00:05 | <peol> | i think, at least :) |
| 00:05 | <TabAtkins> | I'm a GIMP user, so I wouldn't know. |
| 00:06 | <peol> | i run cs4 through a xp vm :p |
| 00:06 | <peol> | gonna start using gimp when get around to grab the latest which has all windows encapsulated |
| 00:07 | <TabAtkins> | woo, dinnertime! |
| 00:07 | TabAtkins | omnomnoms. |
| 00:12 | <AryehGregor> | Has there ever been rel="edit" in the spec? |
| 00:22 | cardona507 | just registered for Google I/O |
| 00:22 | <cardona507> | anyone else going? |
| 00:25 | <AryehGregor> | Why would you want to embed media via QuickTime if you have video and audio? |
| 00:26 | <Philip`> | Maybe you want to use those totally useful "3D" QuickTime things where you can rotate the view |
| 00:32 | <AryehGregor> | You mean like you can do with <canvas>? |
| 00:32 | AryehGregor | looks questioningly at othermaciej |
| 00:35 | <othermaciej> | pardon? |
| 00:35 | <AryehGregor> | Why would you want to embed media via QuickTime if you have video and audio? |
| 00:35 | <AryehGregor> | (in reference to a mailing list post of your from a few hours ago) |
| 00:36 | <othermaciej> | 1) if you want to target browsers that don't have <video> yet |
| 00:36 | <othermaciej> | 2) if you want to target browsers that don't support your codec of choice in <video> |
| 00:36 | <othermaciej> | 3) if you want to embed content types that are supported by the QuickTime plugin but not any browser's <video> or <audio> because they are not strictly speaking either video or audio, such as QuickTime VR content or Quartz Composer content |
| 00:36 | <AryehGregor> | Yes, but in the context of the thread we're talking about <iframe sandbox>. I'm pretty sure all browsers that support that would support <video> . . . and with any luck they'll also have settled on a common codec. |
| 00:37 | <AryehGregor> | Okay, I guess. |
| 00:37 | <othermaciej> | just tryin' to answer your question |
| 00:37 | <othermaciej> | I am not saying I <3 the QuickTime plugin |
| 00:37 | <Philip`> | 4) Maybe you hate your users and want to make their browsers slow and crashy |
| 00:37 | <AryehGregor> | Nah, it would be easier to use Flash then. |
| 00:39 | <AryehGregor> | As one participant in this conversation can attest, judging by his recent fascinating post to public-html today. :) |
| 00:40 | AryehGregor | somehow managed to get Flash consistently crashing Linux Chrome, when Chrome is supposed to be immune to plugin crashes. |
| 00:40 | <Dashiva> | Maybe it's a feature |
| 00:41 | Philip` | disables plugins in his main browser, and has a different browser that he uses almost solely for Flash sites |
| 00:41 | <AryehGregor> | Philip`, me too, but only because plugins don't seem to work with my Linux Chrome yet. |
| 00:41 | <AryehGregor> | If YouTube used <video>, I'd be set. |
| 00:44 | AryehGregor | prays. |
| 00:45 | <AryehGregor> | I wonder what the status on <video>-in-YouTube is. Sadly, I imagine it's "shelve it until <video> is actually better". |
| 00:45 | Dashiva | imagines a service that takes a non-<video> video as input and gives a <video> <source> as output |
| 00:46 | <Dashiva> | Probably expensive bandwidth-wise, but you could throw in ads and stuff maybe :) |
| 00:46 | <Hixie> | still not jgraham? |
| 00:46 | <Hixie> | gsnedders? |
| 00:46 | <Hixie> | s/not/no/ |
| 00:58 | <othermaciej> | AryehGregor: to be fair, Flash was hanging, not crashing |
| 01:01 | <AryehGregor> | Oh, well, that's okay, then. |
| 01:02 | <Hixie> | hey, ws: and wss: are registered now |
| 01:02 | <Hixie> | http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes.html |
| 01:13 | <AryehGregor> | I especially like #9 here: http://www.11points.com/News-Politics/11_Hilarious_(and_Very_Necessary)_Newspaper_Corrections |
| 01:13 | <AryehGregor> | (totally off-topic) |
| 01:21 | <Dashiva> | That kind of journalistic integrity is rare nowadays |