| 00:08 | <Dashiva> | "wikipedia is about verifiability, not truth." |
| 00:08 | <Dashiva> | And they wonder why people shy away... |
| 00:17 | <TabAtkins> | Argh, dashiva. You know very well that it's to avoid interminable arguments with crackpots who claim that what they're saying is *clearly* true. |
| 00:19 | <Dashiva> | In this case it's about refusing to remove an obviously false statement because one source made an incorrect claim |
| 01:02 | <othermaciej> | Dashiva: which case? |
| 02:18 | <cardona507> | can anyone recommend a good wordpress plugin to dynamically show my latest blog post on my homepage in a sidebar? |
| 02:19 | <cardona507> | oops - meant for web |
| 02:19 | <cardona507> | :) |
| 07:57 | <nessy> | quiet day! |
| 14:24 | <hsivonen> | AryehGregor: I believe scriptless fallback to bitmap is possible for MathML-in-text/html: |
| 14:25 | <hsivonen> | 1) emit each text node inside MathML as a CDATA section (ridiculously verbose) |
| 14:26 | <hsivonen> | 2) put a fallback <img> inside <annotation-xml> |
| 14:26 | <hsivonen> | 3) in HTML5 browsers, hide the annotation-xml node using a selector that requires the node to be in the http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML namespace |
| 14:27 | <hsivonen> | Pros: No browsers sniffing, no script, fully cacheable |
| 14:27 | <hsivonen> | Cons: ridiculously verbose, fails in browsers that implement MathML-in-text/html parsing but fail to implement the MathML features used in the markup |
| 14:29 | <hsivonen> | but if Wikipedia deploys presentational MathML-in-text/html, non-Gecko browsers have a reason to get their MathML act together |
| 16:37 | Dashiva | finds it amusing that "It isn't XML" is considered a failing of WebSRT |
| 16:43 | <jps> | hello Hixie how are you? |
| 16:44 | <jps> | it is great to see the HTML5 work on device |
| 18:33 | <annevk> | anyone figured out the zip commands yet in my absense? |
| 18:33 | <annevk> | absence* |
| 18:33 | <annevk> | or tar |
| 18:48 | <annevk> | not a whole lot of logs again |
| 18:48 | <annevk> | last minute mother day preparations? :) |