| 07:59 | <zcorpan> | annevk: wb |
| 08:58 | <matjas> | where in the spec does it say <summary> may not be omitted if <details> is used? |
| 09:04 | <zcorpan> | Content model: |
| 09:04 | <zcorpan> | One summary element followed by flow content. |
| 09:04 | <zcorpan> | http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/interactive-elements.html#the-details-element |
| 09:09 | <matjas> | thanks |
| 09:09 | matjas | files validator.nu bug |
| 09:34 | <Ms2ger> | gsnedders, I believe we killed gopher |
| 09:44 | Ms2ger | loves https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723661 |
| 09:44 | <Ms2ger> | Especially how it was filed yesterday |
| 10:35 | <matjas> | MikeSmith: that was quick; thanks! |
| 10:36 | <MikeSmith> | no problem man |
| 10:36 | <MikeSmith> | th |
| 10:36 | <MikeSmith> | thanks for taking time to report it |
| 10:36 | <MikeSmith> | as is often the case I'm fixing regressions I introduced myself |
| 12:03 | <annevk> | snow |
| 12:04 | <annevk> | pretty crazy |
| 12:15 | <TabAtkins_> | I'm glad I just now bought some gloves and a scarf, for Paris. It's below freezing here in London, and colder in France. |
| 12:16 | <TabAtkins_> | Does anyone know what 'color' is used for in SVG? |
| 12:16 | <annevk> | text? |
| 12:16 | <annevk> | and presumably for the currentColor value |
| 12:16 | <TabAtkins_> | Oh, it's solely so you can use currentColor |
| 12:17 | <TabAtkins_> | No, text uses fill/stroke like everything else. |
| 12:17 | <TabAtkins_> | The spec actually calls out that currentColor is the sole use for 'color'. |
| 12:17 | <annevk> | thanks zcorpan |
| 12:17 | <annevk> | and SVG introduced currentColor... weird |
| 12:18 | <annevk> | (CSS only camelcase value?) |
| 12:18 | <annevk> | +' |
| 12:18 | <TabAtkins_> | Yes, I'm confused about this as well. |
| 12:19 | <TabAtkins_> | Maybe it did more in some earlier version? |
| 12:23 | <annevk> | did you go through http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/ ? |
| 12:23 | <annevk> | hmm that says also it's just for currentColor |
| 12:36 | <annevk> | how does this change attribute proposal address table editing? |
| 12:36 | <annevk> | I thought list items was a solved problem |
| 12:37 | <annevk> | HTML even gives advice about it iirc |
| 12:37 | <annevk> | oh well, hopefully someone else cares more than I do |
| 13:09 | <Velmont> | annevk: No, I never did any real XHR work, only CORS. :] |
| 13:15 | <TabAtkins_> | annevk: I figured it out. currentColor lets SVG use 'color' as a very limited form of CSS variables. |
| 13:16 | <annevk> | well yeah |
| 13:16 | <annevk> | was that the only reason it was added? |
| 13:17 | <TabAtkins_> | Looks like it, yeah. 'color' has literally no effect on anything, anywhere in SVG. |
| 13:17 | <annevk> | it allows defining 'border' in terms of CSS, but that's outside SVG and not really that big of a benefit |
| 13:22 | <TabAtkins_> | I didn't think that was obvious, btw. In CSS it doesn't really serve as a variable, since 'color' has *other* effects. It's a more limited theming device in CSS. |
| 13:22 | <TabAtkins_> | But in SVG, 'color' is fully meaningless, so it can be used solely as a vehicle to transmit colors down the DOM for use in descendants. |
| 13:22 | <TabAtkins_> | s/colors/a color/ |
| 13:26 | <annevk> | well it's used by <foreignObject> children at least |
| 13:32 | <Velmont> | Trying to find any decision/answer about IndexedDB keypath and "." to seperate objects, anyone know anything about it? |
| 13:33 | <Velmont> | It's very possible I could get data from a third party that has a["my.value"] = thing, and I'd want to have a keypath that accesses my.value like that, not the property value on a my object. |
| 13:33 | <Velmont> | So either "my\.value" escaping, or similar stuff. -- |
| 13:40 | <jgraham> | Velmont: Wait 'till sicking is around and ambush him |
| 13:40 | <Velmont> | But I'll be on the plane for FOSDEM soon. |
| 13:40 | <Velmont> | Ah, anyone going to FOSDEM? |
| 14:00 | <izhak> | Guys, is html5 parser specification finished and ready for implementation? |
| 14:02 | <annevk> | it's been implemented in all browsers more or less |
| 14:03 | <annevk> | so it's pretty stable I'd say :) |
| 14:03 | <annevk> | then again, it might change when we add new features |
| 14:06 | <annevk> | inbox <800 teehee |
| 14:06 | <annevk> | still about 400 to go to be back to normal |
| 14:14 | <asmodai> | shite |
| 14:15 | <asmodai> | FF 10 really causing a ton of TDRs with my Nvidia driver >_< |
| 14:27 | <bga> | http://webdemo.visionobjects.com/equation.html?locale=default |
| 14:32 | <zewt> | bronislav + pritchard = lots o' mail |
| 16:18 | <annevk> | hmm |
| 16:18 | <annevk> | anyone seen robbert? |
| 16:19 | <annevk> | train connections are kind of shitty due to snow :/ |
| 16:50 | <AryehGregor> | . . . you know that I never even realized that was a 'font' shorthand property? |
| 16:50 | <AryehGregor> | I actually find it hard to believe. |
| 16:51 | <AryehGregor> | Why do I feel like I've never seen it in my life? |
| 16:54 | <AryehGregor> | Odd that font-size is required in the shorthand. |
| 16:58 | <charlvn> | one step closer to replacing mobile apps with mobile webapps? http://www.w3.org/TR/vibration/ |
| 17:09 | <dglazkov> | good morning, Whatwg! |
| 17:12 | <charlvn> | good evening dimitri |
| 21:58 | <pablof> | [[ When content whose URL has the same origin as the iframe element's Document fails to load (e.g. due to a DNS error, network error, or if the server returned a 4xx or 5xx status code or equivalent), then the user agent must queue a task to fire a simple event named error at the element instead. ]] |
| 21:59 | <pablof> | what element does "[...] named error at the element instead." refer to? the iframe or the document that contains the iframe? |
| 21:59 | <Ms2ger> | iframe |
| 21:59 | <Ms2ger> | A document isn't an element |
| 21:59 | <pablof> | :-) |
| 22:01 | <pablof> | no browser implements that currently, right? |
| 22:01 | <Ms2ger> | Dunno |
| 22:20 | <jgraham> | pablof: Write a testcase, submit it :) |
| 22:20 | <jgraham> | Also: hi :) |
| 22:21 | <pablof> | jgraham: hey |
| 22:21 | <pablof> | i |
| 22:22 | <pablof> | i made a dumb testcase, but i was double checking to see if i wasn't totally incompetent :P |
| 22:22 | <pablof> | where are tests usually? now that i don't have you guys around i don't know where anything is :D |
| 22:23 | <jgraham> | Well the W3C has a testsuite repo at http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html/ |
| 22:23 | <jgraham> | (and a similar one for webapps) |
| 22:24 | <pablof> | cool |
| 22:24 | <jgraham> | So if you make tests in testharness.js format (assuming they are javascript) you can submit them there and we all get to use them :) |
| 22:30 | rniwa | needs to figure out where to put tests for his undomanager |