| 00:30 | <jwalden> | fun.{caller,length} and various others are other instances of the same magical-data-property sadness, fwiw |
| 00:31 | <jwalden> | there used to be some for various instance properties of RegExps, and Strings, but I converted them into actual data properties awhile back with some effort |
| 00:31 | <jwalden> | much much less pain now from them |
| 02:11 | <MikeSmith> | Hixie: |
| 02:11 | <MikeSmith> | [[ |
| 02:12 | <MikeSmith> | Currently you need a DOCTYPE, a character encoding declaration, a title, |
| 02:12 | <MikeSmith> | and some content. |
| 02:12 | <MikeSmith> | ]] |
| 02:12 | <MikeSmith> | since when has the spec required some content? |
| 07:39 | <annevk> | MikeSmith: how is content defiend? |
| 07:39 | <annevk> | defined* |
| 07:40 | <MikeSmith> | annevk: dunno but I guess I assumed it means the body has to have some non-empty content |
| 07:40 | <MikeSmith> | regardless I can't find such a requirement in the spec |
| 07:41 | <MikeSmith> | (the context of me wondering about it is a recent message from Hixie to the whatwg list) |
| 07:42 | <MikeSmith> | annevk: in other news, what the hell is dude going on about in https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17659 |
| 07:43 | <MikeSmith> | "XML lacks native hypermedia affordances, which makes attainment of it's #1 goal impossible" |
| 07:43 | <annevk> | I like it |
| 07:43 | <MikeSmith> | "seven hypermedia "atoms" which can be recombined, six of which are tried and true, the seventh which will hopefully become so" |
| 07:44 | <annevk> | sounds like he wants xml:href, but maybe he's trying to become President of the US instead via an elaborate workaround |
| 07:44 | <MikeSmith> | hahaha |
| 07:44 | <MikeSmith> | annevk: OK I guess I should re-assign that bug to you |
| 07:44 | <benvie> | lord of rings |
| 07:46 | <MikeSmith> | or I think I'll post a comment "Marking this as invalid because it lacks mention of RDF." |
| 07:47 | <MikeSmith> | btw I wonder if anybody knows how to get the whatwg mailing-list server to add a Archived-At header |
| 07:49 | <MikeSmith> | for e.g., http://www.w3.org/mid/Pine.LNX.4.64.1206292028360.30734⊙pdc |
| 07:49 | <annevk> | MikeSmith: haha |
| 07:50 | <annevk> | MikeSmith: the software is from DreamHost |
| 07:50 | <MikeSmith> | oh |
| 07:50 | <annevk> | or well, they provide it I think |
| 07:50 | <MikeSmith> | it's mailman, right? |
| 07:51 | <annevk> | yup |
| 07:52 | <MikeSmith> | google says mailman v3 apparently has some support for it |
| 07:52 | <annevk> | MikeSmith: found http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Stable+URLs from 2009 |
| 07:52 | <MikeSmith> | yeah |
| 07:52 | <MikeSmith> | I think they've since added it |
| 07:56 | <annevk> | there's some discussion about this every now and then |
| 07:56 | <annevk> | I think Philip` had some notes too |
| 07:56 | <MikeSmith> | ok |
| 07:56 | <annevk> | but I think our main bottleneck is DreamHost |
| 07:57 | <MikeSmith> | could solve that by changing to a VM hosting service where you have root |
| 07:59 | <annevk> | http://wiki.dreamhost.com/Discussion_Lists |
| 07:59 | <annevk> | well they'd prolly allow you to run your own software |
| 07:59 | <annevk> | I just don't think we have anyone who wants to maintain that |
| 08:01 | <annevk> | anyone here with an account on that wiki? could add the request to the talk page |
| 08:02 | <Hixie> | MikeSmith: there's a should or something somewhere, look for something like "palpable content" |
| 08:02 | <MikeSmith> | ah |
| 08:02 | <MikeSmith> | Hixie: OK, thanks |
| 08:05 | <MikeSmith> | me finds "Conformance checkers are encouraged to provide a mechanism for authors to find elements that fail to fulfill this requirement, as an authoring aid." |
| 08:05 | <MikeSmith> | will open a validator bug for adding that |
| 09:43 | <Ms2ger> | Oh look, unprefixed IDB |
| 11:54 | <sarspazam> | i really do <3 normalise css |
| 13:11 | <tomasf> | does anyone actually use chunk-extension in chunked transfer encoding for anything? if so, what? |
| 13:11 | <tomasf> | (;key=value;foo=bar after hexadecimal chunk length, before CRLF) |
| 19:13 | <Velmont> | [14:16] <Ms2ger> jgraham / zcorpan: any of you who feels like explaining http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webapps/file/a38857de5129/Workers/tests/submissions/Opera/constructors/Worker/004.html to me? :) |
| 19:13 | <Velmont> | [14:21] <jgraham> Really, putting "author Odin Hørthe Omdal <odinho⊙oc>" on the display of a file he never touched is just silly |
| 19:14 | <Velmont> | jgraham: Yeah, it's just more Mercurial pecuilar "features". That one just says I was the last to touch the entire repository. So it says odinho at everything... |
| 19:35 | <Ms2ger> | Velmont, I bet it says Ms2ger now |
| 19:40 | <Velmont> | Ms2ger: Not that link, it never will, because it's not at tip. |
| 20:54 | <jgraham> | Yeah, I'm going with "bug", although I suppose the hgweb would argue "feature" |
| 20:54 | <jgraham> | +peopel |
| 21:09 | <GPHemsley> | TabAtkins_: Where is the work you're doing on color? Is it available somewhere? |
| 21:11 | <annevk> | hmm |
| 21:11 | <annevk> | www-style is about a thousand emails a month |
| 21:11 | <annevk> | did they really think discussing Fullscreen there was a great idea? |
| 21:12 | <annevk> | aahhh great |
| 21:12 | <annevk> | the editor's draft suggests whatwg⊙wo |
| 21:49 | <gsnedders> | annevk: whatwg is more emails, though! |