| 00:16 | <JonathanNeal> | eddieolson joined, eddieolson left, joined, left. He's as predictable as the spec. |
| 00:16 | <zewt> | gar is there some magic when i want to enter an address bar in firefox that happens to be open somewhere else |
| 00:16 | <dgorbik_> | Hixie: should all webvtt nodes be lineBoxes? |
| 00:17 | <zewt> | it demands very insistently that i switch to the other tab and refuses to autocomplete the url normally |
| 00:17 | <Hixie> | dgorbik_: what is a lineBox? |
| 00:17 | <dgorbik_> | Hixie: is display: block valid for any webvtt nodes in other words? |
| 00:17 | <dgorbik_> | Hixie: as far as I understand that's not valid at all |
| 00:18 | <Hixie> | what do you mean by "valid"? |
| 00:18 | <TabAtkins> | dgorbik_: "line boxes" isn't the right level of abstraction here. Maybe they're inline elements, but that's something different. |
| 00:18 | <dgorbik_> | Hixie: possible to have according to spevs |
| 00:18 | <TabAtkins> | (Line boxes get created out of all the inline elements participating in a given inline formatting context.) |
| 00:18 | <Hixie> | 'display' doesn't apply to the ::cue() pseudo-element regardless of argument, if that's what you mean |
| 00:19 | <dgorbik_> | TabAtkins: right. I am still trying to understand something about ruby |
| 00:19 | <dgorbik_> | TabAtkins: and display: ruby |
| 00:19 | <TabAtkins> | dgorbik_: Don't try to understand display:ruby. It's a bad spec that we will rewrite. |
| 00:20 | <dgorbik_> | TabAtkins: so I guess it's probably fine to drop the support for styling ruby/rt in webvtt for now? |
| 00:20 | <dgorbik_> | elements will still exist but without any default styles... |
| 00:21 | <TabAtkins> | You should still format them as ruby, but dont' worry about their interation with the current CSS Ruby spec. |
| 00:22 | <dgorbik_> | TabAtkins: what do you mean by "format"? |
| 00:22 | <TabAtkins> | As in, shrink the rt and stack it on top of the rb. Normaly ruby formatting. |
| 00:30 | <kbrosnan> | zewt: shift overrides the tab switch behavior |
| 02:10 | <zewt> | in a thoroughly buggy way, it seems |
| 06:39 | <MikeSmith> | if I read https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=782211 right, Gecko will soon have a fully conforming implementation of the current Notifications spec |
| 06:51 | <cgcardona> | MikeSmith: ah, that's the problem. You need to read it left </lamejoke> |
| 06:52 | <MikeSmith> | heh |
| 06:52 | <cgcardona> | :-] |
| 11:02 | <hellyeah> | i try to do clock wih svg http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/animate.html is it a good link tu study for it |
| 11:02 | <jgraham> | (this channel is typically for work on the specifications themselves. But I'm sure people will try to answer other questions too) |
| 11:03 | <hellyeah> | this is the first time i join this channel |
| 11:03 | <MikeSmith> | the #html5 channel might be better |
| 11:03 | <hellyeah> | i mean my question is kinda off topic sorry for that |
| 11:03 | <MikeSmith> | hellyeah: you might want to start by reading an SVG tutorial instead of the SVG spec |
| 11:03 | <hellyeah> | hmm |
| 11:04 | <hellyeah> | can you suggest svg tutorial to me if you have time |
| 11:04 | <MikeSmith> | http://html5demos.com/svg-clock |
| 11:05 | <MikeSmith> | http://www.nimblecoder.com/blog/archive/2009/12/30/animated-clocks-for-svg-and-silverlight.aspx |
| 11:05 | <MikeSmith> | could just do "view source" on some of those to start |
| 11:08 | <hellyeah> | it can be totally stupid question. But i should know ig it is not. Html5 is windows thing? |
| 11:13 | <jgraham> | Oooh, it's zcorpan |
| 11:13 | <zcorpan> | hey |
| 11:15 | <MikeSmith> | long time not see |
| 11:18 | <zcorpan> | indeed |
| 11:18 | <zcorpan> | i'll be offline for another while. just popped in here now accidentally. :-P |
| 11:19 | <jgraham> | Heh |
| 11:20 | <zcorpan> | so how's things? |
| 11:21 | <jgraham> | Pretty quiet |
| 11:23 | <jgraham> | Sounds like someone at moz. is implementing <track> |
| 11:23 | <jgraham> | It's nto clear if they have the right idea about how to read a spec or not :| |
| 11:24 | <jgraham> | But I pointed them at your tests at least |
| 11:24 | <Ms2ger> | It's a group of students |
| 11:24 | <zcorpan> | nice |
| 11:24 | <jgraham> | I see |
| 11:24 | <zcorpan> | bring on the clue bat :-) |
| 11:24 | <Ms2ger> | Lead by David Humphrey at Seneca |
| 11:24 | <Ms2ger> | I will :) |
| 11:25 | <jgraham> | Yeah, I remember them doing things before. Pointer lock last year, perhaps? |
| 11:25 | <MikeSmith> | yeah I think his students have a done several things that ended up landing |
| 11:26 | <Ms2ger> | Yep |
| 11:26 | <jgraham> | Seems liek a pretty neat course |
| 11:27 | <MikeSmith> | yeah if you read his blog postings, seems like he's got a great approach |
| 11:28 | <jgraham> | I haven't seen any about this time; perhaps he fell foul of the weird planet mozilla policies |
| 11:28 | <MikeSmith> | though comments from the guy that was here earlier asking implementing track parsing does make you think maybe they need some better direction in how to read a spec and how to implement from a spec |
| 11:29 | <MikeSmith> | in other news I'm going to make a serious effort this weekend to get github->w3c-test.org sync set up |
| 11:29 | <MikeSmith> | sorry it's taking so long |
| 11:30 | <Ms2ger> | Specs are hard, let's go shopping |
| 11:30 | <jgraham> | MikeSmith: Cool |
| 13:08 | <Jonny_> | hello everybody. |
| 13:11 | <Jonny_> | iam getting bad respone if using canvas EventListener. i´m using this in a phonegab application so base is webkit... |
| 13:12 | <Jonny_> | Are threre any other choice than EventListener detecting a touch area? |
| 13:14 | <Jonny_> | or frameworks to get smoother respone....? |
| 16:31 | <dglazkov> | good morning, Whatwg! |
| 17:00 | Ms2ger | snorts |
| 17:02 | <Velmont> | cocaine? |
| 17:03 | <Ms2ger> | http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-script-coord/2013JanMar/0120.html |
| 17:06 | <MikeSmith> | Ms2ger: he plays a mean bass |
| 22:21 | <zewt> | ios 6 safari ignores maxlength for <input type=number> but doesn't support max? :| |
| 23:12 | <smaug____> | gavin: ping |
| 23:20 | <gavin> | smaug____: pong |
| 23:21 | <smaug____> | gavin: nm. I think I can access bugzilla after all. Need to get the connection limit to moznet increased. This hotel is full of geeks |
| 23:23 | <smaug____> | gavin: but if you could hint to the right people that fixing Bug 837310 asap would be really nice |
| 23:25 | <gavin> | I can ping some people |
| 23:26 | <gavin> | though looks like dumitru's already on it |
| 23:31 | <smaug____> | ok, thanks |