| 09:21 | <annevk> | I wonder how https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/1842#pullrequestreview-2450763 happened |
| 09:21 | <annevk> | The user no longer exists... |
| 09:24 | <MikeSmith> | weird |
| 09:37 | <annevk> | smaug: https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/1742 |
| 09:37 | <smaug> | let me review a patch first |
| 09:43 | <annevk> | smaug: I'm trying to figure out the compound microtask thing, but no luck thus far |
| 09:43 | <annevk> | smaug: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24810 |
| 09:43 | <annevk> | smaug: it seems to be mainly about when microtasks run as tasks or some such |
| 09:44 | <annevk> | smaug: so maybe when the user performs a "cut" operation and there's a mutation observer? |
| 09:44 | <smaug> | is rafaelw still around? Haven't seen comments from him for awhile? |
| 09:44 | <MikeSmith> | not around |
| 09:44 | <MikeSmith> | for a long time |
| 09:45 | <MikeSmith> | as far as I can see |
| 09:49 | <annevk> | smaug: I tried an email |
| 09:51 | <smaug> | thanks |
| 09:53 | <smaug> | github's way to link to comments is a bit annoying. Hard to see from the link which comment is being linked to |
| 09:54 | <annevk> | So I did some searching and I think Rafael left Google and formed a company: https://github.com/rafael-atticlabs |
| 09:55 | <smaug> | oh, plenty of ex-googlers http://attic.io/ |
| 09:56 | <annevk> | Yeah, just noticed Aaron Boodman is there too |
| 09:56 | <annevk> | Oh wow, Erik Arvidsson |
| 11:07 | <nox> | annevk: Seems like the Fetch spec website doesn't get updated anymore. |
| 11:07 | <nox> | https://fetch.spec.whatwg.org says 15 September 2016. |
| 11:08 | <nox> | annevk: Known problem? |
| 11:09 | <annevk> | nox: fixed manually |
| 11:09 | <annevk> | nox: will have a look later |
| 11:09 | <nox> | annevk: Thanks! |
| 12:54 | <annevk> | Ms2ger: finally created https://github.com/servo/servo/issues/13557 |
| 12:54 | <Ms2ger> | Thanks |
| 13:42 | <red-lichtie> | Hi! I have a question about Web Sockets (RFC 6455). Can I use SPNEGO authentication and support SSO while using web sockets? |
| 14:17 | <jgraham> | https://jeenalee.github.io/doge-standard/ |
| 14:26 | <annevk> | That's great |
| 14:43 | <Domenic> | The accompanying article is really good too |
| 14:43 | <Domenic> | http://jeenalee.com/2016/10/03/implementing-doge-for-servo.html |
| 14:44 | <Domenic> | I think I'll write a counterpart article for jsdom, just because it's such a great way of introducing people to contributing and the IDL/impl split and so on. |
| 15:15 | <smaug> | annevk: ok, I think https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22296#c25 is good enough for me about microtasks. The reasoning isn't super clear though |
| 15:55 | <annevk> | smaug: doh, forgot to read the linked bugs 😞 |
| 19:21 | <smaug> | annevk: Domenic: has it been decided where .cookie should live? |
| 19:21 | <smaug> | Document or HTMLDocument? |
| 19:22 | <Domenic> | I don't think anything has been decided |
| 19:22 | <Domenic> | I still think everything should be on Document and HTMLDocument should be an alias or empty vestige, but nobody seems to agree, so I'm bowing out of that discussion. |
| 19:24 | <smaug> | IMO, aliasing is misleading |
| 19:24 | <smaug> | empty, perhaps |
| 19:24 | <Domenic> | it's just a legacy thing IMO |
| 19:24 | <Domenic> | alias necessary for web compat |
| 19:24 | <smaug> | but then, open/write/close really don't make sense outside HTML |
| 20:23 | <annevk> | smaug: there is an issue with discussion on whatwg/dom |
| 20:24 | <annevk> | smaug: I kinda argued to keep things limited to HTMLDocument too |
| 20:24 | <annevk> | smaug: one problem is that browsers don't agree on where they use that object |
| 20:29 | <smaug> | well, Gecko and webkit are quite similar |
| 22:18 | <TabAtkins> | I might have asked this before - both DOM and HTML define "ascii case-insensitive" - which reference should I prefer? annevk domenic |
| 22:19 | <Domenic> | Yeah... you did, and I think I answered "we should consolidate and make one point to the other", but annevk wasn't there to weigh in |
| 22:19 | <TabAtkins> | And whichever is preferred, can we get the other to un-dfn or at least hide their dfn from Bikeshed? |
| 22:19 | <Domenic> | I guess we should file an issue |
| 22:19 | <TabAtkins> | Ah, kk |
| 23:13 | <smaug> | Hmm, HTML spec has "performing a microtask checkpoint" which really doesn't work in case someone uses showModalDialog |
| 23:15 | <smaug> | (not that the spec has showModalDialog anymore) |