01:39
<gsnedders>
MikeSmith: noscript in head in kinda weird and awkward
03:52
<NB123>
hi all im looking for a way to implement spellcheck on safari ipad
03:52
<NB123>
on a web textarea
03:52
<NB123>
it seems like all other browser/platform work except Safari Ipad which i need the most
03:52
<NB123>
any hint?\
04:13
<zcorpan>
gsnedders: https://github.com/html5lib/html5lib-tests/pull/86
08:03
<ondras>
hm
08:04
<ondras>
still puzzled by entity parsing
08:04
<ondras>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html5/syntax.html#consume-a-character-reference
08:04
<ondras>
"If the character reference is being consumed as part of an attribute, and the last character matched is not a ";" (U+003B) character, and the next character is either a "=" (U+003D) character or an alphanumeric ASCII character, then, for historical reasons, all the characters that were matched after the U+0026 AMPERSAND character (&) must be unconsumed, and nothing is returned. However, if this next
08:04
<ondras>
character is in fact a "=" (U+003D) character, then this is a parse error, because some legacy user agents will misinterpret the markup in those cases."
08:04
<ondras>
can someone please show me an example of this rule in action?
08:05
<ondras>
i.e. an attribute value that results in this parse error
08:06
<ondras>
the spec sounds like src="&amp=" would apply to this case?
08:07
<annevk>
ondras: you're quoting a TR/ document, is it the same as the actual document?
08:08
<ondras>
annevk: oops. this would be the proper doc? https://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-preview/tokenization.html#consume-a-character-reference
08:09
<annevk>
ondras: nope
08:09
<ondras>
damn
08:09
<ondras>
how on earth does one orient in this?
08:09
<ondras>
what are my odds of finding the proper document?
08:10
<ondras>
annevk: next try: https://html.spec.whatwg.org/#character-reference-state ?
08:11
<annevk>
ondras: yeah, and apologies for the confusion
08:11
<annevk>
ondras: I kinda assumed you knew since you're here all the time
08:13
<ondras>
annevk: true. sorry for bothering you then; it is worded differently in the actual document and the current wording makes more sense.
11:06
<MikeSmith>
SW meetingin Tokyo?
13:27
<JakeA>
MikeSmith: yep! I posted to the list a few months ago. You interested in joining? April 3rd & 4th
13:27
<MikeSmith>
JakeA: yeah
13:28
<JakeA>
MikeSmith: cool. I've got a TODO-list item to set up a github issue to plan the sessions. I'll post a link to it on the mailing list, but will also ping you directly.
13:28
<MikeSmith>
super
13:29
<MikeSmith>
cheers
13:30
<inoas>
Is there something like ::around or ::wrap, similar to ::after / ::before ?
13:31
<JakeA>
annevk: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/blob/master/notifications/constructor-basic.html doesn't use -manual btw. But it does use force_timeout & set_status which doesn't appear to work
13:32
<annevk>
Pretty sure it is wrong then
13:32
<inoas>
so that you don't have to do <div class="max-width-container"><div class="row"><article> but can just write <article> and have article::around { display: flex; max-width: 1000px; margin: 0 auto; } and article::around:around { display: block; width: 100% }
13:33
<JakeA>
annevk: feels like a grey area, since a browser flag (or granting permission in advance) means the test can run without manual interaction
13:33
<annevk>
JakeA: yeah, but we don't have syntax/support for indicating such a requirement
13:34
<annevk>
JakeA: once we do manual can be automated
13:34
<annevk>
inoas: shadow trees I suppose
13:35
<JakeA>
annevk: fair, will update the test
13:35
<inoas>
annevk I cannot follow what that has to do with shadow trees - can you point me at where to read there?
13:35
<inoas>
I am more like ::before ::after but just ::around
13:35
<inoas>
it is merely about presentation/rendering
13:36
<inoas>
so that you can create the presentation layer in CSS instead of table... eh div-class-soup
13:36
<inoas>
which will reduce the html sizes and thus the rendering overhead on documents massivly if applied
13:39
<annevk>
inoas: I mean that you could attach a shadow tree to the <article> that contains a bunch of wrapper <div>s for styling and a single <slot> for the contents of the <article> element
13:39
<inoas>
annevk that still requires real dom elements for just rendering purposes
13:40
<inoas>
what I mean is a pseudo element like before/after
13:41
<inoas>
annevk: would that be worth an issue?
13:57
<annevk>
inoas: they're hidden from the DOM though, so you don't get pollution in APIs
13:58
<annevk>
inoas: in any event, I guess you could file an issue
13:58
<inoas>
annevk: I am not about Javascript
13:58
<annevk>
inoas: there used to be a generated content proposal that addressed this and way more, but it was overly ambitious and never went anywhere
13:58
<inoas>
just another exampe. I want to have most minimal markup for my clients to write
13:58
<inoas>
so say <article> and <article class="full-width">
13:59
<inoas>
article:not[class="full-width"]::wrap { width: 100%; } article:not[class="full-width"] { margin: 0 auto; max-width: 900px }
13:59
<inoas>
misses () around :not
13:59
<inoas>
it would only be ::wrap or ::around that behaves exactly like ::before and ::after except that it cannot take a content: property
14:00
<inoas>
and well, the render would need to add the pseudo element "around" not before/after
15:49
<JakeA>
MikeSmith: Domenic: https://github.com/w3c/ServiceWorker/issues/1053 details on the next service worker f2f
15:50
<Domenic>
JakeA: awesome, will try to work out my schedule soon
15:52
<JakeA>
MikeSmith: hmm, I think I lied when I said I'd sent something to public-webapps, sorry!
15:52
<JakeA>
fixing now
16:07
<wanderview>
JakeA: do we have any limits on how many people can attend? (room size, etc)
16:07
<wanderview>
we have some folks working in Taipei office on service worker and I'd like to invite them as long as we're not busting the room
16:08
<JakeA>
wanderview: I was thinking the same, especially as most of the Chrome SW effort is in Tokyo. Nate told me it's the "big meeting room", but I'll get numbers
16:08
<JakeA>
wanderview: you're attending right?
16:09
<wanderview>
JakeA: yes, I updated the github issue
16:09
<JakeA>
wanderview: hah, so you did. Cheers!
16:09
<wanderview>
JakeA: btw, can we add a 3rd day where we just hold a rocket league tournament?
16:11
<JakeA>
wanderview: omg yes please
16:11
<wanderview>
I got the game over the weekend... I can sometimes hit the ball!
16:11
<JakeA>
You'll get steadily better. I still miss the ball a ton.
16:12
<wanderview>
I think I've gotten better since I decided never to push the power slide button
16:13
<JakeA>
Played briefly with esprehn. He got scarily good after only 30mins. Like, he was only a further 30mins away from kicking my arse.
17:03
<MikeSmith>
JakeA: thanks
17:17
<esprehn>
JakeA: !!
17:21
<JakeA>
esprehn: (rocket league post-CDS)