| 06:35 | <jyasskin> | annevk: Sorry about the @-references in commits. Is it better to mention your name without the @, or does that still spam you? |
| 06:51 | <annevk> | jyasskin: that would be fine |
| 06:52 | <jyasskin> | 'k; I'll rewrite them. |
| 10:01 | <tobie> | TabAtkins: filed https://github.com/tabatkins/bikeshed/issues/938 |
| 17:03 | <annevk> | tobie: is nobody funding the infrastructure? |
| 17:20 | <tobie> | annevk: funding what? |
| 17:59 | <annevk> | tobie: computing cost, maintenance |
| 18:00 | <tobie> | annevk: of what? Specref, wpt-bot, and pr-preview? |
| 18:00 | <annevk> | Yeah |
| 18:01 | <tobie> | annevk: no. |
| 18:02 | <annevk> | At some point we should get that fixed |
| 18:02 | <annevk> | Makes no sense for orgs to pay fees to standards bodies and infrastructure getting none |
| 18:03 | <tobie> | annevk: well, the real cost is dev + maintenance. |
| 18:03 | <tobie> | annevk: computing costs are super-low/free |
| 18:03 | <tobie> | annevk: I think I pay USD 7/month for specref hosting |
| 18:04 | <tobie> | MSFT helped with the some of the dev costs of Specref. |
| 18:04 | <annevk> | Sure, yeah, both ought to be compensated, and if we need more memory that should be doable too |
| 18:07 | <tobie> | so did Google with pr-preview (the chunk that related to making it work for WebIDL, not the generalizations to extend its usage to other specs.) |
| 18:08 | <tobie> | annevk: the specific issue with more memory in the specref case, is we're outgrowing the available heroku setup |
| 18:09 | <tobie> | annevk: so we can't buy more memory, we need to either make the system horizontally scalable (dev costs) |
| 18:10 | <tobie> | annevk: or we need to use a different system (config cost + learning cost) |
| 18:10 | <tobie> | annevk: hence the logical move seems is to try and lighten the burden on Specref |
| 18:12 | <tobie> | annevk: agree 100% that SDOs should spend a larcger chunk of their fees on infra work |
| 18:13 | <tobie> | annevk: it's one of the things that really irritates me. |
| 18:14 | <tobie> | annevk: that said, some of the stuff pr-preview does is made possible because of underlying infra provided by W3C (the Respec builder and the html differ) |