| 01:37 | <MikeSmith> | I’m curious why the Safari team chose to prioritize implementation of navigator.sendBeacon over other things |
| 01:37 | <MikeSmith> | context being, it’s one of the features that shipped in the latest Safari Technology Preview |
| 01:37 | <MikeSmith> | https://developer.apple.com/safari/technology-preview/release-notes/ |
| 01:37 | <MikeSmith> | maybe that have some particular use for it |
| 01:38 | <MikeSmith> | I don’t know enough about teh use cases for sendBeacon to be able to guess at what that might be though |
| 01:39 | <MikeSmith> | I guess the level of effort for implementing it might be significantly lower relative to a lot other things |
| 07:11 | <annevk> | MikeSmith: could also be something like Facebook saying they need it |
| 08:16 | <MikeSmith> | annevk: ah yeah |
| 08:55 | <foolip> | Regarding https://github.com/whatwg/whatwg.org/pull/36, where should we put the HTML FAQ? annevk Domenic MikeSmith ^ |
| 08:55 | MikeSmith | looks |
| 08:56 | <foolip> | An FAQ.md in https://github.com/whatwg/html/ perhaps? We don't really have another place to put things.... |
| 08:59 | <MikeSmith> | foolip: yeah that |
| 08:59 | <botie> | yeah that is definitely an algorithm. |
| 08:59 | <MikeSmith> | I think that would be fine |
| 08:59 | <foolip> | MikeSmith: ok, so converting to markdown then... |
| 09:00 | <MikeSmith> | thanks for doing the work on that |
| 09:03 | <foolip> | MikeSmith: has bob asked you to push all the buttons needed to launch the new PR results app? |
| 09:06 | <MikeSmith> | foolip: he has the power |
| 09:07 | <MikeSmith> | to do it all |
| 09:07 | <MikeSmith> | can’t recall what it’s waiting on at this point but not me |
| 09:11 | <annevk> | foolip: yeah I guess that's reasonable for now |
| 09:11 | <foolip> | annevk: working on it |
| 09:48 | <MikeSmith> | getting a “Rats! WebGL hit a snag.” message in Gmail and now curious to find out what Gmail is using WebGL for |
| 10:08 | <foolip> | annevk, MikeSmith: https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/2903 |
| 10:10 | <foolip> | parts of the FAQ feel a bit dated, should we add a warning to say that it's being revised, or something like that? |
| 10:10 | <foolip> | to not give the impression that touching it again is a re-commitment to everything it says |
| 10:11 | <annevk> | You should feel free to update it |
| 10:11 | <annevk> | Though maybe as a separate commit? |
| 10:12 | <foolip> | annevk: yeah, actually reading it and making it more approachable would be more work than I'm signing up for today, thought I'd just spend a few hours |
| 10:39 | <MikeSmith> | merged |
| 10:40 | <MikeSmith> | if you don’t have time soonish, I can volunteer to take a shot at updating it, especially the dated parts you mentioned |
| 10:44 | <JakeA> | annevk: I went for "associated headers" rather than "an associated headers" as the latter sounds clunky, but I guess it's customary to treat the property "headers" as a singular? |
| 10:55 | <annevk> | JakeA: yeah |
| 10:56 | <JakeA> | cool, I've made that change |
| 11:20 | <foolip> | MikeSmith: thanks for review! and I don't plan to spend time on updating it soon, so that'd be much appreciated |
| 11:21 | <foolip> | MikeSmith: https://github.com/whatwg/whatwg.org/pull/36 is now also in good shape |
| 11:22 | <foolip> | MikeSmith: in particular, the "other specifications" bit is a bit wrong towards the end now |
| 11:22 | <foolip> | MikeSmith: and the overall structure is strange |
| 13:24 | <annevk> | JakeA: so what's the idea about how the termination reason bubbles back up to the API? |
| 13:44 | <JakeA> | annevk: I'm struggling to find a use for termination reason |
| 13:44 | <JakeA> | annevk: maybe it'll become useful again with FetchObserver? |
| 13:47 | <annevk> | JakeA: as I pointed out XHR uses it |
| 13:48 | <annevk> | JakeA: the other question is whether any termination is an "AbortError" |
| 13:50 | <JakeA> | annevk: right now it's only AbortError via the signal |
| 13:50 | <JakeA> | TypeError otherwise |
| 13:51 | <JakeA> | annevk: maybe it's best to replace termination reason with something else? |
| 13:53 | <annevk> | JakeA: that's fine, as long as we don't break XHR |
| 13:54 | <JakeA> | annevk: right now, if you otherWindow.fetch() and that window goes away, it's a TypeError rather than an AbortError |
| 15:06 | <gsnedders> | is https://www.w3.org/TR/uievents/ the old DOM Level 3 Events spec? |
| 15:06 | <Ms2ger> | Yes |
| 19:11 | <miketaylr> | what's the story w/ https://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2011-September/033196.html being down? |
| 19:12 | <miketaylr> | any mirrors? |
| 19:16 | <miketaylr> | ah ok found it |
| 19:16 | <miketaylr> | hosted on lists.w3.org |
| 21:54 | <MikeSmith> | miketaylr: yeah some Dreamhost limitation prevents the lists.whatwg.org archives from working with TLS |
| 21:54 | <MikeSmith> | I think the only way we could fix it is to move whatwg.org to a different hosting service |