| 01:07 | <MikeSmith> | mounir: is there any document that actually defines gesture=media ? |
| 01:08 | <MikeSmith> | since https://github.com/WICG/gesture-delegation/blob/master/explainer.md doesn’t, I’m wondering where it actually came from |
| 01:10 | <MikeSmith> | because I see getsure=media mentioned at https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2017/09/autoplay-policy-changes#iframe and https://www.chromium.org/audio-video/autoplay |
| 01:14 | <MikeSmith> | ah I see https://github.com/WICG/gesture-delegation/issues/1#issuecomment-330721082 |
| 01:14 | <MikeSmith> | > The wiki page is using a placeholder name. We will update it when the final name has launched. |
| 08:08 | <mounir> | MikeSmith: the intent to ship will be sent any time soon |
| 08:41 | <MikeSmith> | mounir: you don' |
| 08:42 | <MikeSmith> | mounir: you don’t need to provide an actual spec when doing an intent to ship? |
| 09:23 | <mounir> | MikeSmith: we have the explainer which defines things well enough IMO |
| 09:24 | <mounir> | MikeSmith: given the triviality of the feature, a proper spec would be very procedural |
| 09:30 | <MikeSmith> | mounir: not sure others would say that explainer defines things well enough |
| 09:31 | <MikeSmith> | especially given it says absolutely nothing about an HTML attribute with the name “gesture” |
| 09:49 | <mounir> | MikeSmith: because 'gesture' isn't the name of the attribute |
| 09:59 | <MikeSmith> | mounir: it’s not the name of the HTML content attribute? |
| 09:59 | <MikeSmith> | and if not, then what is the name and how is anybody else supposed to know what it might be? |
| 10:00 | <mounir> | MikeSmith: https://github.com/WICG/gesture-delegation/blob/master/explainer.md |
| 10:00 | <MikeSmith> | and why do you have somebody posting at https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2017/09/autoplay-policy-changes#iframe with a <iframe src="myvideo.html" gesture="media"> code example |
| 10:01 | <MikeSmith> | yeah I have read that, multiple times |
| 10:01 | <mounir> | MikeSmith: because that was last month and Domenic and annevk wanted another attribute name |
| 10:01 | <mounir> | MikeSmith: I wasn't going to say no because of our devrel article :) |
| 10:01 | <mounir> | we will update it |
| 10:02 | <mounir> | will update the explainer to make things clear |
| 10:02 | <MikeSmith> | OK |
| 10:02 | <MikeSmith> | thanks for clarifying ehre |
| 10:03 | <annevk> | hard to resist a good bikeshed |
| 10:03 | <mounir> | MikeSmith: what bringed you to look at this if I may ask? |
| 11:05 | <MikeSmith> | mounir: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/46934039/what-is-the-gesture-media-html-attribute |
| 11:06 | <MikeSmith> | please consider posting an answer or comment there yourself |
| 11:06 | <MikeSmith> | or else lemme know and I can update the one I posted |
| 11:55 | <mounir> | MikeSmith: I think it would be better if you could modify your answer instead of someone from my team pilling up with corrections |
| 12:13 | <MikeSmith> | mounir: I’m happy to modify it. What specifically would you suggest I add or change? |
| 12:29 | <mounir> | MikeSmith: mention the attribute name that is in the spec |
| 12:29 | <mounir> | MikeSmith: and say that 'gesture' was meant as a placeholder |
| 12:32 | <MikeSmith> | mounir: there is no spec.. |
| 12:32 | <MikeSmith> | you mean the Explainer document? |
| 12:32 | <MikeSmith> | if so, there is no HTML content attribute name in that document |
| 12:33 | <MikeSmith> | there is nothing in that entire document about any declarative markup mechanism |
| 12:33 | <MikeSmith> | that document only describes a scripting interface |
| 12:39 | <mounir> | MikeSmith: I've updated the explainer this morning to mention the content attribute |
| 12:39 | <MikeSmith> | ah OK |
| 12:39 | <mounir> | it was kind of implicit as they are usually named the same |
| 12:40 | <MikeSmith> | um |
| 14:23 | <Domenic> | Yeah.... not at all implicit. |
| 15:04 | <MikeSmith> | still not sure if planning to do an Intent to Ship with a new HTML content attribute named “delegatestickyuseractivation” is some kind of deliberate troll or what |
| 17:23 | <annevk> | MikeSmith: it’s not; just hard to find a good name that’s also short for niche things |
| 17:23 | <MikeSmith> | Yeah well |
| 17:24 | <MikeSmith> | that that is pretty obviously a non-starter in reality |
| 17:24 | <MikeSmith> | or else the overall feature is |
| 20:33 | <Domenic> | I think I speak for all of us when I say this is the future of the web https://twitter.com/domenic/status/924010078444965888 |