06:28
<falken>
I just get an error message "There were errors. Stopping." from html-build/build.sh. Is there a way to debug?
06:30
<MikeSmith>
falken: I can help now
06:30
<falken>
Great!
06:31
<MikeSmith>
I think that indicates a parse error
06:32
<domfarolino>
falken: Any output difference when trying verbose?
06:32
<domfarolino>
`-v`, that is
06:35
<MikeSmith>
domfarolino: DMed falken about it but apparently I/we may have recently regressed the error-reporting behavior
06:35
<MikeSmith>
in case of errors, the build should cat the .temp/wattsi-output file
06:36
<MikeSmith>
but it seems it might not be doing that in, at least in some cases
06:37
<domfarolino>
ahh I see. That would be difficult to debug indeed.
06:37
<MikeSmith>
yup
06:58
<annevk>
At the end of this year Web Forms 2.0 will have existed for 15 years...
06:59
<annevk>
September 5 the first draft got shared in private
07:00
<Ms2ger>
Maybe we can try to get it implemented by then
07:00
<annevk>
I initially wrote "Still has bugs" as subsequent sentence, but thought that'd be too negative
07:00
<annevk>
Fortunately there's Ms2ger 😃
07:01
Ms2ger
takes a bow
07:02
<MikeSmith>
heh
07:04
<MikeSmith>
I guess we probably now have some 20-year milestones of interest at https://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/History
07:04
<MikeSmith>
doctype sniffing, 1998-07
07:59
<MikeSmith>
falken: I’ve not been able to reproduce the problem you ran into
07:59
<falken>
MikeSmith: hummm
08:00
<MikeSmith>
yeah I get the expected error report emitted to the console
08:01
<falken>
If it matters I'm not using local wattsi: "Local wattsi is not present; trying the build server..."
08:01
<MikeSmith>
but if you’re still able to reproduce it can file an issue with a test case, I can look
08:01
<MikeSmith>
oh
08:01
<falken>
I also often get "socket.error: [Errno 98] Address already in use" but even after killing the server the same error happened
08:01
<MikeSmith>
ah
08:02
<MikeSmith>
yeah the socket error happens if you ^C kill the build before it completes
08:02
<MikeSmith>
it’s because of the support for syntax-highlighting that I added recently
08:03
<MikeSmith>
that support relies on the build starting up a local web server
08:04
<MikeSmith>
if you have pkill or such installed, you can do `pkill python; ./build.sh` to kill that web server before you build again
08:04
<falken>
yea.. it didn't seem to matter if the socket error happened or not
08:04
<MikeSmith>
well, assuming you don’t have any other python process running (because that pkill invocation would kill them all)
08:04
<MikeSmith>
yeah
08:05
<MikeSmith>
yeah so I didn’t test the remote-wattsi case yet
08:05
<MikeSmith>
I will
08:55
<MikeSmith>
falken: so yeah thanks I can reproduce it with remote wattsi
09:23
<MikeSmith>
falken: https://github.com/whatwg/html-build/pull/181 has the fix
09:23
<MikeSmith>
thanks again for catching that
15:04
<Domenic>
MikeSmith: we should also use tricks to catch ^Cs and kill the server anyway
16:14
<MikeSmith>
Domenic: true
20:45
<rixx>
hi, I noticed that Request.credentials is now (as of https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/commit/811575d6889026c68d55a327f79198dccfea403c in April) supposed to default to "same-origin" instead of "omit". This is not reflected in the living standard document for fetch: https://fetch.spec.whatwg.org/
20:46
<rixx>
The relevant line is https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/blob/master/review-drafts/2018-06.bs#L1057 -- what's the best way forward? Submitting an issue? Direct PR?
20:54
<Domenic>
rixx: why do you say it's not reflected in the living standard? (Also, why are you pointing to the review draft instead of the living standard?)
20:55
<Domenic>
rixx: the change in https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/commit/811575d6889026c68d55a327f79198dccfea403c appears in the living standard at https://fetch.spec.whatwg.org/#dom-request step 6.6.
20:58
<rixx>
it does, but in the standard document it says 'Unless stated otherwise, it is "omit".', which sounds to me like it doesn't match that change
20:59
<Domenic>
But it is stated otherwise, on step 6.6.
21:03
<rixx>
it does say that, thank you for pointing it out. I'd argue finding the valid value for credentials is a bit convoluted, then
21:03
<rixx>
Thank you for clearing that up, sorry for the noise
21:04
<Domenic>
np!
22:51
<MikeSmith>
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Request/credentials$compare?from=1403797&to=1403836
22:52
<MikeSmith>
> even though the living standard document currently does not reflect it, same-origin is the default value as of..