| 00:52 | <MikeSmith> | innovati: you’re not going to have any issues with CSS styling. That video-container element will be parsed into that DOM and be styleable just like any other standard element |
| 01:26 | <innovati> | thanks :D |
| 13:22 | <gsnedders> | Oh fun, we have loads of tests with <link rel=help> pointing at http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-html-templates-20130214/. Metadata in tests is great, because it's never outdated. |
| 15:19 | <annevk> | gsnedders: hmm, I can PR that I suppose |
| 15:19 | <gsnedders> | I mean, it's not really worth anyone's time IMO |
| 15:19 | <gsnedders> | it's just further evidence that adding loads of metadata is pointless because nobody maintains it |
| 15:21 | <MikeSmith> | it would be useful if we used other systems that consumed that data and did something valuable with it |
| 15:21 | <MikeSmith> | which we don’t |
| 15:22 | <MikeSmith> | and in fact the trend seems to be toward doing the opposite thing and linking from the specs to the test cases instead |
| 15:22 | <MikeSmith> | e.g., using <wpt> in Bikeshed |
| 15:23 | <gsnedders> | but even having other systems doesn't matter, given we see enough cases in CSS where nobody bothers to update stuff |
| 15:24 | <MikeSmith> | I didn’t actually know that was the case for CSS ー that even they weren’t keeping that metadata up to date |
| 15:25 | <gsnedders> | I mean, people basically care at the time when preparing an IR to advance to PR, and never otherwise. |
| 15:25 | <gsnedders> | Which is my experience in general. |
| 15:25 | <MikeSmith> | anyway, not surprised that nobody keeps something up to date ー same old thing of, if not keeping it up to date doesn’t break anything, then nobody is ever going to get alerted that it’s gone out of date |
| 15:25 | <gsnedders> | Almost all the cases I've seen of metadata in tests around the W3C it's only ever been properly maintained for PR advancement, and never otherwise, even if the tests are. |
| 15:26 | <gsnedders> | Because the vast majority of metadata only has much value for PR |
| 15:26 | <MikeSmith> | well seems like the tests get neglected after that too |
| 15:26 | <MikeSmith> | Mission Accomplished |