| 10:00 | <haakonmh> | Hi |
| 10:38 | <Ms2ger> | annevk, https://github.com/heycam/webidl/pull/675#issuecomment-503452334 |
| 11:31 | <annevk> | Ms2ger: basically, I think that PR depends on the outcome of https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/147#issuecomment-513274020 |
| 11:32 | <Ms2ger> | annevk, ok, can you put that in the PR? |
| 11:34 | <annevk> | Ms2ger: added a comment |
| 11:35 | <Ms2ger> | Takk |
| 12:13 | <smaug____> | I wonder why the gray box moves when using ctrl+click: https://html.spec.whatwg.org/#history-traversal-task-source, click on the term, the gray box opens. Then ctrl+click on different entries to open them in new tabs |
| 12:13 | <smaug____> | gray box moves to bottom left |
| 12:13 | <smaug____> | happens at least in Nightly and some version of Chrome |
| 12:13 | <smaug____> | (looks like Chrome 77) |
| 12:21 | <MikeSmith> | smaug____: I think that is by design |
| 12:21 | <MikeSmith> | to move it out of the way |
| 12:21 | <smaug____> | huh |
| 12:21 | <MikeSmith> | while still persisting it so that you can follow further backlinks |
| 12:22 | <annevk> | domfarolino: heya |
| 12:22 | <annevk> | domfarolino: if I comment on an HTML PR, I don't endorse a particular design on behalf of Firefox |
| 12:22 | <annevk> | domfarolino: in particular I'm not at all sure about this prefetch stuff |
| 12:23 | <MikeSmith> | smaug____: I think the rationale is that keeping the box in the middle of the text flow is more obtrusive |
| 12:24 | <MikeSmith> | the box moves after to navigate to one of them links |
| 12:24 | <domfarolino> | annevk: hello. ok, sorry I failed to capture that. I was assuming you were reviewing the PR to get it in a direction you were comfortable with |
| 12:24 | <MikeSmith> | maybe it should not move it if you are not navigating. I mean for the Ctrl+Click open-in-new-tab case |
| 12:25 | <annevk> | domfarolino: that would probably have been good, but I mostly gave high-level feedback (and it looks like only early feedback) and didn't do a design review |
| 12:25 | <smaug____> | it is odd for the UI to moves hundreds of pixels down |
| 12:25 | <annevk> | domfarolino: while you're here, how much data do you all have on prefetching? |
| 12:26 | <smaug____> | I've always thought it is just a bug in some script |
| 12:26 | <annevk> | domfarolino: afaik nobody does Vary: Cookie so you'll get all these weird cases where users are not logged in while they expected to be, right? |
| 12:42 | <domfarolino> | annevk: Not much right now, but we plan on coming into TPAC with some numbers. Right now we're working on starting to experiment with the redirect mode changes, and we're hoping to ship the SW-mode change too. We're deferring the credentials mode bits until credential-less navigation is more clear, as it will likely be too problematic now |
| 12:42 | <domfarolino> | cc yoav |
| 12:46 | <annevk> | domfarolino: note that if you don't patch credentials you don't close the XSLeaks hole |
| 12:54 | <annevk> | domfarolino: do you want to correct the blink-dev post or would it be better if I replied? |
| 12:55 | <domfarolino> | annevk: we wouldn't be shipping a partial solution, we just don't think it makes sense to make the credentials mode change yet. |
| 12:55 | <domfarolino> | annevk: you are referring to the prefetch request mode changes just to be clear right? I can correct it. Would you like me to mention that you don't fully endorse it, and that your review was not necessarily on behalf of Firefox/Mozilla? |
| 12:56 | <annevk> | domfarolino: yeah, https://github.com/w3c/resource-hints/issues/82#issuecomment-519082099 has some initial thoughts |
| 12:57 | <annevk> | domfarolino: thanks |
| 13:20 | <MikeSmith> | smaug____: Might be worth raising an issue. It arguably is a bug, if the user experience is surprising and unintuitive |
| 13:28 | <annevk> | domfarolino: in general if it's not on standards-positions it's best to assume Firefox has no position |
| 13:29 | <annevk> | domfarolino: unless someone explicitly said they were talking on behalf of Firefox |
| 13:29 | <annevk> | (and even then...) |
| 13:29 | <domfarolino> | annevk: That's the impression I've been getting |
| 13:50 | <domfarolino> | annevk: Updated the thread. unfortunately i had sent it with my google email address, which I've never used to send a message before, so the post is "under moderation" for a bit lol |
| 14:06 | <annevk> | heh |