| 04:30 | <kennyluck> | there's been no mail for two days on www-style. That made me think I was kicked off the list. |
| 08:42 | <zcorpan> | dglazkov: bob made two links to the same article |
| 08:44 | <zcorpan> | dglazkov: also, the <pre>s have pretty small font i think |
| 08:46 | <zcorpan> | dglazkov: imho, the reference to WoW should be a lot more subtle, such that only actual WoW players would get the reference |
| 09:07 | <erlehmann> | zcorpan, which reference? |
| 09:14 | <zcorpan> | http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/whatwg/20111223#l-84 |
| 11:38 | <annevk> | fwiw, the WebKit bug on removing document.charset / defaultCharset was wontfixed suggesting I file a bug on removing document.defaultCharset |
| 11:38 | <annevk> | not sure I'm gonna file those bugs anymore |
| 11:54 | <annevk> | heycam|away: there's no undefined in IDL? |
| 11:54 | <annevk> | heycam|away: because then I could write DOMString or undefined |
| 11:58 | <Ms2ger> | No |
| 11:59 | <annevk> | meh |
| 11:59 | <annevk> | I'm not even sure if undefined is handled the same way for open() everywhere |
| 12:12 | <Ms2ger> | * gavin thought OMG IDL was a joke |
| 12:12 | <Ms2ger> | <shaver> gavin: in some ways, it is |
| 12:13 | <annevk> | hehe |
| 12:13 | <annevk> | most certainly |
| 12:13 | <annevk> | also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4zEAPZxtBA |
| 12:13 | <annevk> | highly relevant |
| 12:27 | <annevk> | ah http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/intl/uconv/ucvja/nsJapaneseToUnicode.cpp#174 |
| 12:27 | <annevk> | that pretty much matches my testing |
| 12:27 | <annevk> | but no rationale |
| 12:27 | <annevk> | (Opera always consumes both) |
| 12:34 | <Ms2ger> | annevk, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690225, which I can't access |
| 12:34 | <annevk> | same here, I'm not in the secret club |
| 12:37 | <smaug____> | why is bug 690225 still closed :/ |
| 12:40 | <annevk> | there's a similar bug for EUC-JP https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=563618 |
| 12:40 | <annevk> | but the changes all seem kind of sketchy |
| 12:41 | <smaug____> | bug 690225 is not a crasher |
| 12:42 | <Ms2ger> | 3.6? |
| 12:42 | <annevk> | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25037 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64235 seem like the actual culprits |
| 12:42 | <smaug____> | Ms2ger: what is the latest 3.6. the bug has .24-fixed |
| 12:43 | <Ms2ger> | .25 |
| 12:44 | <annevk> | so Gecko had sensible error handling and then had to change that :( |
| 13:03 | <freechelmimi> | Ping hsivonen |
| 13:04 | <freechelmimi> | Was reading the great http://webm.html5.org |
| 13:04 | <freechelmimi> | I think for IE 678 |
| 13:04 | <freechelmimi> | We could tell users to install chromeFrame |
| 13:05 | <freechelmimi> | as it even works without admin rights |
| 13:15 | <ernini> | with chrome frame that site still reports that the browser doesn't support it |
| 13:15 | <freechelmimi> | ernini: Does it ? we should modify it then |
| 13:16 | <freechelmimi> | Are you sure chrome frame is used ? |
| 13:16 | <ernini> | yeh just installed it, restarted the browser |
| 13:16 | <freechelmimi> | because the javascript webm support test should succeed |
| 13:16 | <freechelmimi> | Let me test |
| 13:18 | <freechelmimi> | You're right ernini |
| 13:18 | <freechelmimi> | ha ok , I'm dumb :-) |
| 13:19 | <freechelmimi> | yeah the website has to force whrome Frame usage |
| 13:19 | <freechelmimi> | So it's quite tricky to say actually that installing chrome frame is gonna make IE6 playing webm |
| 13:19 | <freechelmimi> | But I'll force my users anyway :-) |
| 13:20 | <freechelmimi> | hsivonen: forget my proposal for now then .... |
| 13:22 | <ernini> | freechelmimi: oke cool :) |
| 13:22 | <ernini> | was just thinking of adding google chrome frame in our winxp base image |
| 13:23 | <ernini> | so was kinda testing with that page :D |
| 13:23 | <freechelmimi> | It's a great idea to integrate chrome frame |
| 13:23 | <freechelmimi> | and activate it for specific intranet pages for exemple |
| 13:24 | <freechelmimi> | like youtube did |
| 13:24 | <ernini> | yeh got some intranet sites that won't with google chrome, so only needs to be used when tested with |
| 13:29 | <ernini> | but now i see indeed that only sites that explicitly opt-in will use it |
| 13:29 | <ernini> | so thats good |
| 15:18 | <Huvet> | Hi! Can i request a new PyPi release? |
| 15:19 | <annevk> | probably not here |
| 15:19 | <Huvet> | ah, html5lib. |
| 15:20 | <Huvet> | important info :) |
| 15:20 | <Huvet> | It's a mess installing from source, and this bug is blocking: normal usage of it: http://code.google.com/p/html5lib/issues/detail?id=138&q=etree |
| 15:20 | <annevk> | I think the problem with releasing it is that trunk does not pass all the tests |
| 15:20 | <annevk> | jgraham / gsnedders might know more |
| 15:23 | <Huvet> | also, the wiki seems down: http://wiki.whatwg.org/ |
| 19:03 | <gsnedders> | Huvet: Eh, yeah, jgraham should do that. |
| 21:16 | <annevk> | so godaddy just reversed their position (somewhat) |
| 21:16 | <annevk> | wikipedia still gonna move? |
| 21:18 | <zewt> | not fickle at all |
| 21:28 | <annevk> | dropping a paypal account is btw incredibly hard |
| 21:28 | <annevk> | there were about four confirmation screens after I found the tiny link in submenu of submenu etc. |
| 21:29 | <annevk> | searching for "opzeggen" / "afmelden" / "annuleren" on the Dutch paypal site yields no results |
| 21:29 | <annevk> | had to search on Google first to find another site to tell me how to go about it |
| 21:32 | <zewt> | not as bad as godaddy's autorenewal evil, heh |
| 21:33 | <zewt> | they'll automatically bill you full price to renew ssl certs by default, without telling you in advance (except i assume buried in some 100-page "agreement", which doesn't qualify) |
| 21:34 | <gsnedders> | But they are one of the few domains registers that allowed me to renew a domain while not in the same country as my credit card is registered to. |
| 22:19 | <zewt> | gross, html mail that sets the whole thing as background-color: #FFFFFF |
| 22:20 | <zewt> | the amount of eyes-clenched-shut-nobody-does-things-in-any-other-way-but-ours in software development is still staggering, even today |
| 22:22 | <Lirodon> | Hixie, oh good. phpbb 3. finally :> |