| 02:37 | <zewt> | cool, apparently putting words in quotes no longer disables fuzzing with google |
| 02:37 | <zewt> | thanks for making it harder and harder to search for what i say to search for |
| 09:24 | <smaug____> | https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22836 "Every tech concept/architecture should derived from single First Principle" ? |
| 09:24 | <smaug____> | huh |
| 09:24 | <smaug____> | this is the web |
| 09:24 | <smaug____> | no logic or such principles here |
| 09:25 | <smaug____> | (but would be ofc nice to have specs which address some particular problem ) |
| 09:27 | <Ms2ger> | Pah, this isn't theoretical physics |
| 09:49 | <jgraham> | Ms2ger: Pointing to a merged PR and saying "don't do it like that" seems ironic given the 90-odd open PRs |
| 09:49 | <Ms2ger> | jgraham, all I'm saying is that I didn't want to review it :) |
| 09:49 | <Ms2ger> | jgraham, and feel free to review some of my open PRs :) |
| 09:50 | <jgraham> | Ms2ger: I will :) |
| 09:50 | <Ms2ger> | (I'd better pester you now, I know how busy the ateam is) |
| 09:50 | <jgraham> | But there are some advantages to larger PRs. It makes it easier to get an overview of what's covered, rather than doing it incrementally |
| 09:51 | <jgraham> | Of course they expose more of the inadequecies of the github ui |
| 09:53 | <Ms2ger> | Regardless of UI, review time scales non-linearly with patch size, in my experience |
| 09:54 | <jgraham> | Well if that's true here it seems like a purely psycological effect |
| 09:55 | <jgraham> | Having N tests as 1 patch compared to N tests as N patches doesn't change anything about the amount of review needed |
| 09:56 | <ondras> | hmh |
| 09:56 | <ondras> | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=897860 |
| 09:56 | <ondras> | noone confirmed yet |
| 09:56 | <ondras> | strange |
| 09:56 | <jgraham> | OTOH for a patch to software, an N line change might well be less than half the amount of work of a 2N line change because there will be more interactions |
| 10:00 | <Ms2ger> | Yeah |
| 10:15 | <Ms2ger> | So is anybody going to implement HTTP2? |
| 11:02 | <tobie> | marcosc: you around? |
| 11:03 | <marcosc> | tobie: yessir |
| 11:04 | <tobie> | So FYI I'm in the process of streamlining the CLA for the main test repository to completely remove the requirements for signing the grant II form etc. |
| 11:05 | <Ms2ger> | Interesting |
| 11:05 | <marcosc> | tobie: that's great to hear |
| 11:05 | <tobie> | marcosc: in that process, the pull request becomes the contribution |
| 11:05 | <Ms2ger> | Were any lawyers hurt in the process? |
| 11:05 | <marcosc> | keep out of this Ms2ger, this is all for me! |
| 11:05 | <marcosc> | :) |
| 11:05 | <marcosc> | tobie: nice :) |
| 11:06 | <marcosc> | Lawrence Lessig will have to write a new book: "A PR is Law" :) |
| 11:06 | <tobie> | and thus you're automatically opting in to the CLA by opening a PR. |
| 11:06 | <tobie> | tuning the text here: |
| 11:07 | <tobie> | https://github.com/tobie/web-platform-tests/blob/a6754bd6dd9af54a2b9d352c78924ea443b7b70c/CONTRIBUTING.md |
| 11:08 | <tobie> | marcosc: I suggest you use the same process for the sysapps work |
| 11:08 | <marcosc> | tobie: without doing a PR, you have a small typo "You further agrees" |
| 11:08 | <marcosc> | tobie: I think that is good |
| 11:08 | <tobie> | yeah, fixed on the plane , haven't pushed my changes yet |
| 11:09 | <marcosc> | ok |
| 11:09 | <tobie> | Let me ping you once those are in the main repo. |
| 11:09 | <marcosc> | excellent |
| 11:09 | <marcosc> | thanks for the help! |
| 11:09 | <tobie> | np |
| 11:10 | <marcosc> | bbl |
| 11:11 | <tobie> | Ms2ger: never heard of the famous Swiss TV series "Tobie the Lawyer Slayer"? |
| 11:12 | <Ms2ger> | Excellent |
| 11:12 | Ms2ger | doesn't like W3C lawyers |
| 11:15 | <tobie> | Ms2ger: W3C lawyers or W3C members lawyers? |
| 11:15 | <Ms2ger> | The former |
| 11:15 | <tobie> | So that's something personal, then, I gather. |
| 11:17 | <Ms2ger> | Actually, probably both |
| 11:17 | <tobie> | :) |
| 11:19 | Ms2ger | would put them with the telephone cleaners |
| 13:01 | <zewt> | that sure is some feedbackiuuuiiija |
| 13:30 | <mynameis> | can I delete iframe border? |
| 13:58 | <mynameis> | how can I change width and height of iframe with javascript |
| 13:58 | <mynameis> | for some reason I cant :S |
| 14:33 | <tobie> | marcosc: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/261 |
| 14:34 | <marcosc> | thanks tobie, will take a look soon |
| 14:34 | <tobie> | np |
| 16:26 | <annevk> | http://9to5mac.com/2013/07/29/new-iphone-with-biometric-fingerprint-sensor-seemingly-confirmed-by-ios-leak/ <!DOCTYPE> lol |
| 16:51 | <jgraham> | Oh man |
| 16:52 | <jgraham> | https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/166 |
| 16:52 | <jgraham> | Got merged, than Ms2ger made a comment, then the branch got updated, but now the GH UI doesn't show the new commit |
| 16:53 | <jgraham> | Also the branch history is a mess |
| 16:53 | <jgraham> | Why do people like GH so much? |
| 17:02 | jgraham | fixes |
| 17:06 | <TabAtkins> | 'cause it's easy. |
| 17:50 | <Ms2ger> | jgraham, no idea |
| 17:54 | <jgraham> | TabAtkins: Sadly it's easy to do broken things and hard to do non-broken things |
| 19:28 | <jgraham> | So what happens if I pass window to an object that expects a Sequence<T>? |
| 19:28 | <jgraham> | s/object/interface/ |
| 19:39 | <Ms2ger> | jgraham, I think you get a sequence of windows |
| 19:39 | <Ms2ger> | If it's sequence<DOMString>, you probably get ["[Object Window]", ...] |
| 19:39 | <Domenic_> | wouldn't it depend on whether there are elements with ids length, 0, 1, etc.? |
| 19:39 | <Ms2ger> | Domenic_, window == window.frames |
| 19:40 | <Domenic_> | Ms2ger: ah cool, thanks. |
| 19:40 | <Ms2ger> | It's one of the weird things that someone thought were a good idea in the Netscape era and stuck around |
| 19:40 | <Domenic_> | yeah, figured |
| 19:42 | <jgraham> | Ms2ger: OK, that makes sense |
| 19:42 | <jgraham> | Or at least I can see how that could happen. Not that I have wored it out from WebIDL yet :) |
| 19:42 | <jgraham> | *worked |
| 19:43 | <Ms2ger> | I thought the conversion to sequence wasn't too intricate? |
| 19:43 | Ms2ger | looks |
| 19:43 | <jgraham> | Oh, I see |
| 19:44 | <jgraham> | Right, I wasn't sure if the overload resolution algorithm disallowed it |
| 19:44 | <Ms2ger> | Ah |
| 19:44 | <Ms2ger> | If there's overloads, don't rely on me :) |
| 19:45 | <jgraham> | I should get heycam|away to review this test :) |
| 21:35 | <mynameis> | why I can't select element in iframe? I have this code http://pastie.org/8191347 |
| 22:53 | <Hixie> | anyone understand http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org//2013-April/039357.html ? |
| 23:00 | <jgraham> | Hixie: I think they are asking for a way to generate something like {"field1":"value1", "field2":["value2", "value3"]} from <input name=field1><input name=field2><input name=field2> |
| 23:01 | <Hixie> | aah, ok |
| 23:01 | <Hixie> | actually, rereading it, i think they want templates |
| 23:03 | <jgraham> | Well I considered that, but it seems a bit less likely to me. I could well be wrong though; it is very unclear. |
| 23:04 | <jgraham> | It seems less likely because they talk about a single field with a list type |
| 23:04 | <gsnedders> | jgraham: I presume you don't mind me stealing the ihatexml name for a new package that does what ihatexml.py does? |
| 23:04 | <jgraham> | gsnedders: No |
| 23:04 | <jgraham> | I don;t |
| 23:05 | <Hixie> | jgraham: hm. i interpreted that as wanting a list of <input>s |
| 23:05 | <jgraham> | whereas a template would be multiple records each with scalar values |
| 23:06 | <jgraham> | I think they want a list of inputs to map onto a list of values |
| 23:06 | <jgraham> | But I think you need to ask |
| 23:07 | <jgraham> | (that is, a list of values for a single field) |
| 23:09 | jgraham | -> sleep |
| 23:09 | <Hixie> | jgraham: rafaelw's template thing allows for repeating templates |