| 00:25 | <MikeSmith> | cabanier: thanksーturned on the Chrome "Enable experimental canvas features" flag and re-generated the test report http://w3c.github.io/test-results/2dcontext/less-than-2.html |
| 00:27 | <MikeSmith> | cabanier: about http://www.w3c-test.org/2dcontext/fill-and-stroke-styles/2d.pattern.repeat.null.html & http://www.w3c-test.org/2dcontext/fill-and-stroke-styles/2d.pattern.image.broken.html ーthanks also, I'll fix those and open a PR |
| 00:29 | <MikeSmith> | cabanier: ah I see you opened a PR already |
| 00:37 | <MikeSmith> | cabanier: hmm that new http://web-platform.test:8000/2dcontext/fill-and-stroke-styles/2d.pattern.image.broken.html test fails too |
| 00:37 | <MikeSmith> | "that is not a DOMException INVALID_STATE_ERR: property "code" is equal to undefined, expected 11" |
| 00:44 | <MikeSmith> | cabanier: yeah seems that still nobody actually conforms to the spec on this yet, right? |
| 00:44 | <MikeSmith> | nobody throws |
| 00:50 | <MikeSmith> | cabanier: wait in the case where there is not image at a given URL, the image is not going to be in the "broken" state is it? it just remains "unavailable" |
| 00:55 | <MikeSmith> | an nah I see it does end up as "broken" |
| 01:03 | <MikeSmith> | cabanier: fyi https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=405761 "drawImage should throw INVALID_STATE_ERR on invalid image, not NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAIL" |
| 01:03 | <MikeSmith> | which is not createPattern but I guess it's the same issue, as far as Firefox goes |
| 02:28 | <cabanier> | MikeSmith: It's weird. when I try the createPattern case with my own test file in chrome canary, it throws the right exception, but not in the test |
| 02:29 | <cabanier> | MikeSmith: I opened a firefox bug on it: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1003380 |
| 02:29 | <cabanier> | MikeSmith: I got an r+ for the patch but the test is failing. Likely because the image is not in the broken state when the test runs |
| 02:45 | MikeSmith | looks at cabanier bug |
| 02:49 | <MikeSmith> | cabanier: sounds like you've got another Firefox bug to fix :-) by the time you're done you'll have re-written all the image-processing logic in Firefox. And by the time you're done with that, Hixie will have landed the image-processing changes in the spec and your changes will be out of date already :-) |
| 02:49 | <cabanier> | MikeSmith: I marked 405761 as a duplicate |
| 02:49 | <MikeSmith> | ok |
| 02:49 | <cabanier> | :-) |
| 02:50 | <MikeSmith> | so about the createPattern test, maybe there's a bug in the test |
| 02:50 | <MikeSmith> | but I dunno what it'd be |
| 02:50 | <cabanier> | MikeSmith: I don't know what's going on. I can't tell from stepping through. |
| 02:51 | <cabanier> | MikeSmith: it seems the image state is fragile |
| 02:51 | <MikeSmith> | sounds like |
| 04:05 | <Hixie> | MikeSmith: aw man, img loading. i don't suppose you want to spec that do you. |
| 04:05 | Hixie | is so lot looking forward to speccing that |
| 04:05 | <Hixie> | uh, not, not lot |
| 04:19 | <MikeSmith> | Hixie: I don't want to spec it :) |
| 04:19 | <Hixie> | bummer |
| 04:19 | <cabanier> | Hixie: didn't you already spec it? |
| 04:20 | <cabanier> | or is it not detailed enough? |
| 04:20 | <Hixie> | see recent mails to the list, i linked to the relevant bugs |
| 04:22 | <MikeSmith> | Hixie: I guess you probably don't necessarily _want_ to spec it either. But as usual if you don't, nobody else going to |
| 04:22 | <Hixie> | :-) |
| 05:13 | <Hixie> | woot, my parser is up to passing 5000 tests. |
| 05:13 | <Hixie> | no idea how many tests there are... |
| 05:14 | <Hixie> | and about 4000 of those seem to be entity tests... |
| 05:14 | <Hixie> | but anyway... |
| 05:28 | <zcorpan> | Hixie: html parser? |
| 06:25 | <zcorpan> | Hixie: now the spec looks nice! |
| 07:19 | <hsivonen> | Hixie: no complaints about the TLD-based guessing yet |
| 07:19 | <hsivonen> | Hixie: meanwhile, Firefox 29 shipped, so I should nugde the telemetry folks about running the analysis for 27 and 28 now |
| 07:20 | <hsivonen> | SimonSapin: the use case for VISCII is editing an mq patch as text in gedit when the patch patches both UTF-8 files and windows-1252 files, so the patch as a whole won't decode cleanly as either |
| 07:21 | <hsivonen> | SimonSapin: VISCII a) is supported by gedit, b) assigns all the bytes and c) doesn't do bidi or other munging |
| 07:23 | <Ms2ger> | Speaking of obscure use cases :) |
| 07:32 | <zcorpan> | https://xkcd.com/1172/ |
| 11:08 | <jgraham> | zcorpan: You should get TabAtkins to sign up as a reviewer for the quirks mode spec |
| 11:08 | <zcorpan> | TabAtkins: ^ |
| 11:09 | <jgraham> | +tests |
| 11:18 | <zcorpan> | mathiasbynens++ for record turnaround time re CSS.escape spec changes |
| 11:41 | <mathiasbynens> | zcorpan: Mozilla just landed an initial implementation based on the old spec, bad timing :/ |
| 11:42 | <zcorpan> | that's ok, it'll just escape some things that are not necessary anymore (but were necessary per css2.1) |
| 11:42 | <zcorpan> | (before errata) |
| 11:43 | <zcorpan> | i don't like errata |
| 11:45 | <MikeSmith> | "In accordance with prophecy" should be the new meme |
| 11:47 | <MikeSmith> | zcorpan: errata are the new substantive changes |
| 11:49 | <MikeSmith> | we should just give up on trying to create an XML-ER spec and just have the XML Core group publish it all in successive pieces as "errata" for the XML 5th edition spec |
| 11:54 | <zcorpan> | what if you need to errata the errata? can it go deeper? |
| 11:55 | <zcorpan> | errata #1: fix the link in the errata to this list of errata |
| 11:56 | <zcorpan> | (obviously each level should be harder to find) |
| 11:58 | <zcorpan> | ((the next level is uncommitted)) |
| 12:00 | <zcorpan> | (((limbo is not written down anywhere))) |
| 12:22 | <MikeSmith> | hah |
| 12:33 | <annevk> | http://what-if.xkcd.com/94/ <3 |
| 13:05 | <annevk> | mathiasbynens: so what if I pass in a surrogate to CSS.escape()... I get it back? Does not seem entirely correct |
| 13:18 | <mathiasbynens> | annevk: do you mean that whenever CSSOM uses the term “character”, it means scalar value/symbol? |
| 13:18 | <mathiasbynens> | annevk: or should CSSOM be changed so that it is |
| 13:25 | <annevk> | mathiasbynens: I wonder if the behavior for CSS.escape("\uD800") is what we want |
| 13:25 | <annevk> | mathiasbynens: it not defining what it means by character is an issue I suppose |
| 13:26 | <mathiasbynens> | agreed |
| 14:25 | <zewt> | wow, really? gmail's editor now appears to be swallowing control-pgup/pgdn, preventing me from changing tabs with the keyboard while editing an email |
| 14:28 | <SamB> | zewt: time to switch to basic html? |
| 14:30 | <SamB> | (it's not as bad as it sounds -- there's still some JavaScript for autocompletion, it's just still possible to use the page if it doesn't work) |
| 14:44 | mathiasbynens | still wishes Gmail would make the annoying hard-wrapping optional for plaintext emails |
| 15:07 | <annevk> | I'd rather they wrap the whole thing |
| 15:07 | <annevk> | http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pointer-events/2014AprJun/0020.html is ugly |
| 15:09 | <annevk> | JakeA: seems like the SW spec is broken for interfaces? |
| 15:11 | <JakeA> | annevk: ugh, yes |
| 15:11 | <JakeA> | will see which commit busted that |
| 15:17 | <JakeA> | annevk: I've rolled it back to the last good commit while I figure out what's happening |
| 15:29 | <JakeA> | annevk: New version of polymer broke it. Asked Alex to look into it. gh-pages version is working now though |
| 15:31 | <annevk> | JakeA: ta |
| 15:31 | <annevk> | Polymer seems like such overkill for a spec |
| 15:37 | <Domenic_> | I like the idea of killing preprocessors via custom elements. |
| 15:42 | <mathiasbynens> | annevk: that’s hypermail’s fault, though |
| 15:46 | <Hixie> | gsnedders: yt? |
| 15:46 | <Hixie> | gsnedders: are you doing test coverage analysis of the parser by any chance? |
| 15:54 | <Ms2ger> | https://twitter.com/mattur/status/461240899503407105 |
| 15:55 | <annevk> | Pretty sure Philip` would have spotted that before they even started to attempt writing Polyglot |
| 15:56 | <Hixie> | anyone want to take over maintaining the blog? it's the main user of CPU on our machine these days. |
| 15:59 | <jgraham> | Hixie: 4 posts in 2 years? Seems like you could just shoot it in the head |
| 15:59 | <annevk> | Hixie: maintaining how? |
| 16:00 | <jgraham> | Maybe try to dump the content somehow first |
| 16:00 | <Hixie> | maintaining like maybe transitioning us to something that doesn't take huge amounts of CPU just to report content that, as jgraham points out, has only changed 4 times in 2 years |
| 16:00 | annevk | attempts to reach blog.whatwg.org |
| 16:01 | <Hixie> | the lowest hanging fruit would be making /feed static somehow |
| 16:01 | <Domenic_> | Octopress has worked very well for me. (Static blog generator.) |
| 16:01 | <annevk> | I can't even get to the server at this point |
| 16:01 | <Hixie> | load average: 35.36, 20.42, 11.41 |
| 16:02 | <Domenic_> | My preference for Node toolchains over Ruby ones would make me want to try Ghost, but Octopress is known-working. |
| 16:02 | <Hixie> | about 19 of the top 20 processes on the machine are: |
| 16:02 | <Hixie> | 4897 17693 lhunt 0:00.96 0.3 262m 34m 1.8 ? php54.cgi |
| 16:02 | <Hixie> | where "lhunt" is the user that runs the blog |
| 16:02 | <annevk> | Pretty sure WP has plug-ins to make most stuff stable |
| 16:02 | <annevk> | s/stable/static/ |
| 16:02 | <annevk> | Just need to get in... |
| 16:02 | <Hixie> | yeah i'd be shocked if WP didn't have something like that |
| 16:03 | <Hixie> | making the RSS static was one of the first optimisations i made to my own blog software decades ago :-) |
| 16:03 | annevk | updates blog |
| 16:04 | <jgraham> | Oh, look http://octopress.org/docs/plugins/render-partial/ sounds like what I want for the testthewebforward website |
| 16:05 | <jgraham> | Domenic_: Any idea if that works directly with github static pages or whatever they're called |
| 16:05 | <jgraham> | testthewebforward is using raw Jekyll |
| 16:06 | <Domenic_> | jgraham: yup, any static file server. I host http://domenic.me/ with GitHub pages + a CNAME file. |
| 16:06 | <Domenic_> | AFAICT Octopress is just Jekyll + some blog-specific helpers |
| 16:06 | <jgraham> | Domenic_: Right, but I think GitHub have some auto-build thing |
| 16:06 | <Domenic_> | jgraham: yeah, but I don't use that, I just push the files. |
| 16:06 | <Domenic_> | after building locally |
| 16:06 | <jgraham> | Domenic_: Right, but testthewebforward does |
| 16:07 | <jgraham> | Which is what I want to change |
| 16:07 | <Domenic_> | jgraham: oh i see what you're saying. Cool! |
| 16:08 | <jgraham> | Looks like the answer is no :( |
| 16:08 | <cabanier> | Ms2ger: can you do merge your own pull request? |
| 16:08 | <cabanier> | s/do// |
| 16:08 | <jgraham> | cabanier: Which repo? |
| 16:08 | <cabanier> | jgraham: w3c/web-platform-tests |
| 16:09 | <jgraham> | cabanier: If it is reviewed on github or critic then feel free to merge |
| 16:09 | <cabanier> | jgraham: how do I ask for review there? Do I assign it to someone? |
| 16:10 | <annevk> | Hixie: blog.whatwg.org is super slow |
| 16:10 | <Hixie> | yes |
| 16:10 | <jgraham> | cabanier: critic automagically asks for review |
| 16:10 | <Hixie> | that's why i mentioned it eaclier :-) |
| 16:10 | <Hixie> | earlier even |
| 16:10 | <jgraham> | cabanier: https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/1416 |
| 16:10 | <gsnedders> | Hixie: no, but it's trivial to do from html5lib |
| 16:11 | <gsnedders> | Hixie: except the fact that that doesn't necessarily perfectly match the spec, as it is slightly out of date |
| 16:11 | <cabanier> | jgraham: got it! |
| 16:11 | <TabAtkins> | annevk: The behavior for CSS.escape("\uD800") is that you get a string containing U+FFFD, right? |
| 16:11 | <gsnedders> | Hixie: and what are you looking for? line coverage? branch coverage? path coverage? |
| 16:12 | <Hixie> | gsnedders: mostly coverage of each of the switch statements' branches, i think |
| 16:12 | <Hixie> | gsnedders: just to make sure we've covered all of them at least once |
| 16:12 | <annevk> | TabAtkins: no, you get U+D800 back with the current API, though it depends on what character means whether or not it crashes |
| 16:13 | <gsnedders> | Hixie: ping me in half an hour and I'll check what html5lib currently gives |
| 16:13 | <Hixie> | gsnedders: i can probably instrument my own code to check later if you haven't, i was just curious if you were looking into it. could be a useful thing to look at. |
| 16:13 | <TabAtkins> | Hmm. I'd expect either U+FFFD or "\d800", which escapes to a U+FFFD character. |
| 16:13 | <gsnedders> | Hixie: it's trivial to do with html5lib, and I've done it before |
| 16:13 | <Hixie> | gsnedders: ah ok, cool |
| 16:13 | <TabAtkins> | Depending on how escape() is defined. |
| 16:13 | <gsnedders> | Hixie: like nosetests --coverage or something, I forget the argument needed |
| 16:13 | <Hixie> | cool |
| 16:13 | <annevk> | Hixie: cache plugin is on and updated now... |
| 16:13 | Hixie | wishes he could say the same of FPC |
| 16:13 | <gsnedders> | but yeah, me -> uni |
| 16:13 | <annevk> | Hixie: hopefully it works better? |
| 16:14 | <Hixie> | (i think you have to use like valgrind or something to do coverage testing for FPC programs) |
| 16:14 | <Hixie> | annevk: cool |
| 16:14 | <Hixie> | annevk: does that make /feed basically static? |
| 16:15 | <Hixie> | looks like yes |
| 16:15 | <Hixie> | there's a huge comment at the end of the feed now talking about the cache status |
| 16:15 | <Hixie> | i'm guessing that's not necessary :-) |
| 16:16 | <annevk> | hmm |
| 16:16 | <Hixie> | thanks for doing this |
| 16:16 | <Hixie> | it should be a huge help |
| 16:21 | <jgraham> | cabanier: You want to add your email to https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/home so you get notifications |
| 16:24 | <annevk> | Hixie: I'll look into disabling debug |
| 16:24 | <cabanier> | jgraham: done. let me know if I'm not using the toold correctly |
| 16:25 | <Hixie> | annevk: cool |
| 16:26 | <annevk> | Hixie: the admin panel is sooooo slow |
| 16:28 | <Hixie> | the load average is dropping |
| 16:28 | <Hixie> | but it's still 4.64, 7.54, 8.89 |
| 16:29 | <jgraham> | cabanier: Looks like you are doing just fine at the moment. I suspect Ms2ger is particularly interested in "null" rather than a randomly chosen invalid value though (I didn't check the other test, I'm just assuming that it doesn't use "null") |
| 16:31 | <cabanier> | jgraham: yes, it uses a bogus value |
| 16:31 | <cabanier> | jgraham: maybe he's worried that someone tests for the "null" string? |
| 16:31 | <annevk> | Hixie: should be gone now; if you're logged in you might still see it or maybe it's another kind of artifact |
| 16:31 | <Hixie> | annevk: k |
| 16:32 | <Hixie> | annevk: thanks! |
| 16:32 | <annevk> | Domenic_: tools used to fetch DTDs, brought netscape.com nearly to its knees back in the RSS days |
| 16:32 | <Domenic_> | wowwww |
| 16:33 | <Hixie> | made w3c suffer too |
| 16:33 | <annevk> | Yeah, W3C might still suffer I guess |
| 16:33 | <cabanier> | jgraham: I'll add that test. It's easy |
| 16:38 | <beverloo_> | MikeSmith, thanks for the push repo! |
| 16:42 | <cabanier> | jgraham: I think I messed something up |
| 16:45 | <zcorpan> | TabAtkins: r? https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/1424 |
| 16:45 | <zcorpan> | TabAtkins: also would you be OK with setting up a filter for quirks-mode/ ? |
| 16:47 | <TabAtkins> | Dunno how to do so, but I'm fine with such. |
| 16:49 | <TabAtkins> | annevk: Yeah, W3C still has caching infrastructure in place to handle DTD queries super-cheaply. |
| 16:50 | <jgraham> | cabanier: Seems like you created a new review rather than pushing a commit to your previous branch? |
| 16:51 | <jgraham> | cabanier: Right, the normal mode of operation is to address all the comments in that review and not merge until it says "Accepted" in big letters |
| 16:52 | <cabanier> | jgraham: I directly committed something in the master github. I have no idea how that happened. |
| 16:54 | <cabanier> | jgraham: ok. I should not have merge that pullrequest yet either |
| 16:54 | <zewt> | can just reset it if it's not pushed |
| 16:55 | <jgraham> | cabanier: Yeah, I'm not sure what you did here, but basically no harm done I thnk |
| 16:55 | <cabanier> | weird |
| 16:56 | <gsnedders> | Hixie: http://stuff.gsnedders.com/html5lib-coverage-20140430/ is what html5lib-python currently has. html5lib.html5parser and html5lib.tokenizer are probably the only really interesting cases |
| 16:57 | <zcorpan> | TabAtkins: https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/home click "add filter", type quirks-mode/ in path, make sure it's the right repo and type is "reviewer", click save |
| 16:57 | <zcorpan> | TabAtkins: https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/tutorial?item=filters if you feel like reading about it |
| 16:58 | <zcorpan> | TabAtkins: and thanks :-) |
| 16:58 | <TabAtkins> | kk |
| 16:58 | <gsnedders> | Hixie: so we're missing tests for <![FOO[ where <![CDATA[ is parsed, some case in the AAA, and a few cases of branches always being taken |
| 16:59 | <zcorpan> | jgraham: wtf happened here? https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/1423 https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/1424 https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/1425 https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/1426 |
| 16:59 | <Hixie> | gsnedders: neat |
| 17:01 | <gsnedders> | Hixie: a few of those cases I'm not sure it's even possible to not take the branch quickly looking |
| 17:01 | <jgraham> | zcorpan: My guess is that MikeSmith was trying to help me set up wptrunner in critic, running into problems and pressing the "test hook" button in w-p-t which re-sends the last request |
| 17:01 | <gsnedders> | Hixie: (proof is left as an exercise to the reader) :) |
| 17:01 | <Hixie> | gsnedders: dead code in html5lib? |
| 17:01 | <zcorpan> | jgraham: oh |
| 17:01 | <zcorpan> | ok |
| 17:02 | <gsnedders> | Hixie: the branch is always taken, so could maybe hoist the body of the if statement and get rid of the if statement |
| 17:02 | <zcorpan> | MikeSmith: wanna drop the excess reviews? :-) |
| 17:03 | <gsnedders> | Hixie: anyhow, time for me to go back to^W^W^W start revising for exam tomorrow :) |
| 17:03 | <Hixie> | gsnedders: enjoy! |
| 17:05 | <jgraham> | MikeSmith: I dropped them, no need for you to do anything |
| 17:19 | <MikeSmith> | jgraham: OK |
| 17:19 | <MikeSmith> | jgraham: yeah your guess was correct |
| 17:19 | <MikeSmith> | monkey vs typewriter |
| 17:31 | <TabAtkins> | What's the correct repo in critic for quirks-mode tests? |
| 17:32 | <jgraham> | TabAtkins: web-platform-tests |
| 17:32 | <Ms2ger> | Since... yesterday? |
| 17:33 | <jgraham> | Today |
| 17:33 | <jgraham> | Possibly depending on timezone or sleeping pattersm |
| 17:33 | <MikeSmith> | beverloo_: glad to help |
| 17:33 | <jgraham> | *patterns |
| 17:33 | <TabAtkins> | Cool, thanks. |
| 17:34 | <MikeSmith> | Hixie: let's move the blog over to hosting at w3.org! |
| 17:34 | <MikeSmith> | that'll probably work out well |
| 17:34 | <jgraham> | MikeSmith: Are we still stuck with the wptrunner webhook thing? |
| 17:34 | <MikeSmith> | jgraham: yeah I'm stumped at least |
| 17:34 | <Ms2ger> | MikeSmith, ....interesting idea |
| 17:35 | <MikeSmith> | jgraham: if Robin can get some time to look at it he might be able to figure it out. I have no clue myself at this point |
| 17:35 | <jgraham> | MikeSmith: Did you try choosing a different content type and then switching back, like darobin suggested? |
| 17:35 | <MikeSmith> | jgraham: I can look more in the morning my time |
| 17:35 | <MikeSmith> | jgraham: yeah did that |
| 17:35 | <jgraham> | MikeSmith: OK |
| 17:35 | <jgraham> | MikeSmith: Thanks for the help |
| 17:36 | <jgraham> | Probably we should just ask github at this point |
| 17:36 | <MikeSmith> | yeah |
| 17:37 | <MikeSmith> | jgraham: that config UI makes me want to kick somebody in the face |
| 17:37 | <Ms2ger> | Hey |
| 17:37 | <Ms2ger> | The previous UI was "use the API" |
| 17:38 | <MikeSmith> | I like that UI better |
| 17:38 | <Hixie> | MikeSmith: heh |
| 17:38 | <MikeSmith> | at least somebody didn't get paid money to spend time developing that UI |
| 17:39 | <MikeSmith> | Hixie: speaking of blogs btw the blog thing on w3.org also sucks up most of the CPU. except in that case it's multiplied by 150 times. Or however many CGs there are. It's nuts |
| 17:39 | <MikeSmith> | so, yay for blogs |
| 17:40 | <gsnedders> | Hixie: you just running Apache? |
| 17:40 | <Hixie> | MikeSmith: nice |
| 17:40 | <Hixie> | gsnedders: yeah |
| 17:41 | <gsnedders> | Hixie: should be able to throw mod_cache in front of teh blog, I think |
| 17:42 | <MikeSmith> | cabanier: if/when you have time, please review https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/1239 |
| 17:42 | <MikeSmith> | cabanier: which is for https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/851 |
| 17:42 | <Hixie> | gsnedders: configuring apache on dreamhost is a pain |
| 17:42 | <gsnedders> | Hixie: gl;hf ;P |
| 17:42 | <Hixie> | :-) |
| 17:52 | <MikeSmith> | jgraham: please try again on that hook right now if you have time |
| 17:52 | <MikeSmith> | when I went to check it now it was set back to no-JSON and with SSL turned back on |
| 17:53 | <MikeSmith> | which I re-switched it back again |
| 17:56 | <jgraham> | MikeSmith: Checking |
| 17:56 | <jgraham> | MikeSmith: Worked :) |
| 17:56 | <MikeSmith> | sweet |
| 17:57 | <MikeSmith> | so I can now go to sleep feeling like I actually accomplished something useful today |
| 17:57 | <jgraham> | Heh |
| 17:57 | <jgraham> | Sleep well :) |
| 19:03 | <cabanier> | MikeSmith: that test looks good to me |
| 21:47 | <IZh> | Hixie: Hi. |
| 21:48 | <IZh> | Hixie: My script reported that your URL returned HTTP 504 status for last document. |
| 21:51 | <Hixie> | 504! |
| 21:51 | Hixie | tries to remember what 504 is :-) |
| 21:51 | <Hixie> | oh gateway timeout |
| 21:51 | <Hixie> | yeah |
| 21:51 | <Hixie> | server was having issues this morning |
| 21:53 | <IZh> | Should my script handle this by repeating sending? |
| 21:56 | <Hixie> | nah |
| 21:56 | <Hixie> | i would just ignore any errors you get back |
| 21:57 | <Hixie> | i'll update the spec again soon enough and then it'll regenerate |
| 22:01 | <IZh> | Ok :-) |
| 22:11 | <eligrey> | i'd like to request an account for the wiki (desired username: eligrey) |
| 22:12 | <eligrey> | the first edit i'd like to make is writing up a navigator.cores proposal |
| 22:12 | <eligrey> | (which exposes the amount of total hardware threads available to the system) |
| 22:13 | <eligrey> | the wiki says to talk to "these permanent autoconfirmed members" (redlink) :/ |
| 22:19 | <Hixie> | eligrey: e-mail? |
| 22:19 | <eligrey> | me⊙ec |
| 22:20 | <Hixie> | done |
| 22:24 | <eligrey> | ok thanks |
| 23:06 | <Hixie> | anyone got a recent IE? what does http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/?saved=2883 look like? |
| 23:07 | <boogyman> | by recent you mean nightly build or 11? |
| 23:08 | <boogyman> | i have 10.0.9 |
| 23:10 | <boogyman> | http://minus.com/i/bpp3b2KgaK6Vy @ Hixie for IE 10.0.9 |
| 23:10 | <Hixie> | thanks |
| 23:10 | <Hixie> | interesting |
| 23:10 | <Hixie> | so safari and chrome do cross-origin font loads, but IE and mozilla do not |
| 23:35 | <hober> | Hixie: http://www.w3.org/2011/10/31-webapps-minutes.html#item02 |