| 00:30 | <TabAtkins> | Hmm, haven't seen zcorpan in a bit. Vacation? |
| 00:45 | <MikeSmith> | TabAtkins: yeah |
| 00:45 | <MikeSmith> | he'll be away for another couple of weeks at least I think |
| 00:45 | <TabAtkins> | Ah, kk. Hrm, wanna get a CSSOM change in relatively quickly, for Firefox's sake. |
| 00:45 | <TabAtkins> | I guess we'll have to CfC without him and I'll make the edit. |
| 00:46 | <MikeSmith> | wasn't SimonSapin working on CSSOM too? |
| 00:57 | <TabAtkins> | Don't think so. |
| 01:23 | <MikeSmith> | TabAtkins: zcorpan's be showing up still on irc every few days or so for a short time, so maybe if you ping him he'll follow up |
| 01:24 | <TabAtkins> | kk |
| 01:25 | <TabAtkins> | zcorpan: Got two cssom-view issues in www-style regarding scrollIntoView that Chrome and FF are in favor of changing. Please ping the list with yay/nay, and we'll run a CfC for the rest of the WG. I can take care of editing if you want, or leave it to you. |
| 01:26 | <MikeSmith> | TabAtkins: if you do, botie, inform zcorpan with that over on #respimg, he'll get a notification with that message next time he joins the channel |
| 01:26 | <TabAtkins> | Yeah, saw that. Thanks. |
| 01:26 | <MikeSmith> | cheers |
| 02:50 | <Streusel> | is the dublin core meta correct? currently it uses property="dc.title" while the dublin core site notes that it should be name="dc.title", however this is from back in 2001. |
| 02:58 | SamB | hasn't heard of <META PROPERTY> before ... |
| 03:13 | <Streusel> | hmm.. :| |
| 03:14 | <Streusel> | well facebook uses it for their opengraph |
| 03:17 | <Streusel> | All I know is http://html5.validator.nu/?doc=http%3A%2F%2Fupaste.me returns an error on the <meta name="dc.title" content=""> while none on <meta property="dc.language" content=""> |
| 05:40 | <MikeSmith> | Streusel: it seems dc.title isn't a registered meta@name value, but dcterms.title is |
| 05:40 | <MikeSmith> | http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/MetaExtensions |
| 05:40 | <Streusel> | let me test it with dc.language then |
| 05:41 | <MikeSmith> | dc.language is registered |
| 05:41 | <MikeSmith> | but dcterms.language is also |
| 05:41 | <MikeSmith> | I have no idea which is the one you're really supposed to use |
| 05:42 | <Streusel> | >-< |
| 05:42 | <MikeSmith> | but there are no dc.* namespaced values registered other than dc.language and dc.date.issued |
| 05:42 | <Streusel> | description should be there |
| 05:43 | <Streusel> | http://dublincore.org/documents/dc-html/ |
| 05:43 | <MikeSmith> | shrug |
| 05:43 | <Streusel> | that one has dc.title |
| 05:43 | <MikeSmith> | myself from the dublincore docs, I can't make heads or tails of what the usage rules are |
| 05:44 | <Streusel> | http://dublincore.org/documents/2001/04/12/usageguide/simple-html.shtml |
| 05:44 | <Streusel> | but this was issued 2001-04-12 |
| 05:44 | <MikeSmith> | http://dublincore.org/documents/dc-html/ is the thing that all the registered values cite |
| 05:45 | <MikeSmith> | yeah http://dublincore.org/documents/dc-html/ is 2008 |
| 05:45 | <Streusel> | weird to omit items.. |
| 05:46 | <MikeSmith> | hmm <meta name="DC.title" content="Services to Government" > etc. are used throughout that http://dublincore.org/documents/dc-html/ document |
| 05:46 | <MikeSmith> | do a find-in-page for "name=" |
| 05:47 | <Streusel> | yeah |
| 05:48 | <Streusel> | it's as if they had no other dc.* value |
| 05:49 | <Streusel> | so with the overwhelming usage of dc.title, what's the chance of it being added to the list of metaextensions? |
| 05:52 | <MikeSmith> | Streusel: if you add it yourself to http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/MetaExtensions there's a 100% chance it will be supported |
| 05:52 | <Streusel> | hehe |
| 05:53 | <MikeSmith> | if you give me your e-mail address I can set up a wiki account for you |
| 05:57 | <Streusel> | didn't know the registration was turned off |
| 07:50 | <Ms2ger> | Ouch |
| 07:50 | <Ms2ger> | I just hit "Too slow? Try reading the multipage copy of the spec instead: http://whatwg.org/html"; on the multipage copy |
| 12:43 | <gsnedders> | is there any sane way to get position: sticky to interact with flexbox sanely? |
| 14:46 | <TabAtkins> | gsnedders: position:sticky is a magic relpos, which should work fine with flexbox. |
| 14:46 | <TabAtkins> | Operative word being "should". |
| 15:17 | <gsnedders> | TabAtkins: :) |
| 15:19 | <gsnedders> | I'm pretty sure my problem is the sidebar is the height of the flex container (or whatever the term is! :P) and not the height of its contents, hence it's being sticky wrt its size. |
| 15:21 | <TabAtkins> | Without seeing any of your markup, I have no idea, but you can fix that by setting align-self to "flex-start" on the sidebar. |
| 15:21 | <TabAtkins> | It defaults to "stretch". |
| 15:22 | <gsnedders> | Can I complain about not understanding flexbox despite having tried to read plenty about it, inc. the spec? |
| 15:23 | <TabAtkins> | Possibly. |
| 15:23 | <TabAtkins> | But I'm getting ready for work, so I won't read your complaints for a bit. |
| 15:23 | gsnedders | complains |
| 15:24 | <gsnedders> | I'll try and put together some email of stuff I don't understand and could do with some more intro in the spec |
| 16:27 | <gsnedders> | dev tools really don't make it clear why flexbox stuff ends up as it does |
| 16:27 | <TabAtkins> | gsnedders: Thanks, happy to add more explanatory stuff. |
| 17:08 | <Hixie> | Ms2ger: lol |
| 17:08 | <Hixie> | Ms2ger: can you file a bug? i must have forgotten to set class=split or something |
| 17:09 | <Ms2ger> | https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26435 |
| 17:10 | <Hixie> | thanks |
| 17:12 | <Ms2ger> | Np |
| 20:12 | <Hixie> | anyone know anything about moznofilter=""? in particular, how much traction it's getting? https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9785 |
| 20:30 | <MikeSmith> | Hixie: Yesterday I created a wiki account for Streusel and the system claims it e-mailed him a password, but he's still not actually received any message |
| 20:36 | <Hixie> | MikeSmith: send it again, i guess? |
| 20:37 | <MikeSmith> | Hixie: the system won't let me |
| 20:37 | <Hixie> | odd |
| 20:38 | <Hixie> | what happens if he uses the lost password flow? |
| 20:38 | <MikeSmith> | it says is already sent one within the last 24 hours, so I guess I could re-try laster today after it times out |
| 20:38 | <MikeSmith> | Hixie: what I just described above |
| 20:38 | <Hixie> | ah |
| 20:39 | <Hixie> | well |
| 20:39 | <Hixie> | wait 24 hours? :-) |
| 20:40 | <MikeSmith> | yeah |
| 20:40 | <Hixie> | or find GPHemsley... |
| 20:41 | <Hixie> | or whoever is maintaining the wiki these days |
| 20:51 | <Streusel> | Hixie: I tried the "lost password" method already ~2 hours after the initial creation. |