| 00:00 | <boogyman> | but you do make fair points about the capabilities. |
| 00:00 | <Hixie> | in particular i don't understand the difference between a sibling iframe that stays alive while your iframe is navigated, and a shared worker that survives your navigation |
| 00:00 | <Hixie> | in terms of making http stateful, they seem identical |
| 00:01 | <boogyman> | i would agree with that conclusion. is that what occurs? |
| 00:15 | <Hixie> | how do you mean? |
| 00:19 | <boogyman> | My experience with sibling iframe is a 2min google search |
| 00:20 | <boogyman> | so when you say "sibling iframe stays alive", i am not exactly sure how that introduces state into HTTP |
| 00:36 | <Hixie> | boogyman: how does a shared worker introduce state into HTTP? |
| 00:44 | <boogyman> | by definition it introduces the ability for a continued process to execute regardless of user-interaction on screen. |
| 00:44 | <Hixie> | ditto with an iframe |
| 00:45 | <Hixie> | anything you can do to community with a shared worker, you can do when communicating to an iframe |
| 00:45 | <Hixie> | or indeed to the iframe host |
| 00:58 | <Hixie> | annevk: got a 500 from the twitter notification script |
| 01:14 | <GPHemsley> | MikeSmith: Oh, how long have you been on the admin list? ^_^ |
| 01:15 | <GPHemsley> | FTR, I'm switching us to track MediaWiki via git |
| 01:15 | <MikeSmith> | GPHemsley: since whenever it was the Hixie added me 😺 |
| 01:15 | <GPHemsley> | so upgrading will just be a combination of pulling and switching branches |
| 01:15 | <GPHemsley> | MikeSmith: Oh, showing off with emoji, too? :-P |
| 01:15 | <MikeSmith> | nice |
| 01:15 | <GPHemsley> | (and running the upgrade script) |
| 01:16 | <MikeSmith> | 👻 |
| 01:18 | <MikeSmith> | in other news if anybody can help me round up all the web developers responsible for online movie-ticket booking forms and get them into one room together so that I can kill them all at the same time please let me knwo |
| 01:21 | <MikeSmith> | short of that if somebody can give give the home addresses of the devs that made the form at http://www.aeoncinema.com/cinema/minatomirai/ that'd be a good start |
| 01:25 | <MikeSmith> | me sees that "environment settings objects" has landed |
| 01:27 | <MikeSmith> | me wonders is Hixie is going to open a new bug for adding "environment kind" |
| 01:28 | <Hixie> | see the bug |
| 01:28 | <Hixie> | i decided not to |
| 01:29 | <Hixie> | if you think i should anyway, do file a new bug :-) |
| 01:44 | GPHemsley | wonders if all the emoji pushed the slash key off MikeSmith's keyboard |
| 01:44 | <GPHemsley> | OK, actual migration about to happen. Try not to use the wiki until I give the all-clear. |
| 01:59 | <GPHemsley> | OK, upgrade complete. If you notice any issues, let me know, |
| 02:00 | <GPHemsley> | (It seems to be slow right now, but I don't know if that's just a caching thing. If it persists, we may have to investigate.) |
| 02:00 | <GPHemsley> | Hixie, annevk, MikeSmith: FYI ^ |
| 02:05 | <say2joe> | @annevk can you point me to the right place to better understand the URL spec gh repo? I've forked and have a small change I'd like to submit a pull request for … but new to the xxx.src.html vs xxx.html spec file with makefile setup. thanks. |
| 02:11 | <GPHemsley> | monetary breakage; please stand by |
| 02:12 | <GPHemsley> | breakage repaired |
| 02:18 | <GPHemsley> | hmm... apparently a 404 caused the slowdown |
| 02:18 | <GPHemsley> | (forgot to copy an image) |
| 02:19 | <GPHemsley> | anyway, we should be good now |
| 02:19 | <GPHemsley> | if anyone wants any further changes, let me know |
| 02:21 | <GPHemsley> | say2joe: Anolis is the preprocessor |
| 02:22 | <GPHemsley> | src is the file you edit |
| 02:22 | GPHemsley | wanders off |
| 02:49 | <Domenic> | annevk: the URL spec Readme should be updated to answer say2joe's question IMO. |
| 11:48 | <annevk> | Hixie: seems that DreamHost updating broke the script |
| 11:48 | <annevk> | win some, lose some |
| 12:32 | <annevk> | Hixie: I think I fixed it |
| 22:01 | <erlehmann> | http://html5.validator.nu/ |
| 22:01 | <erlehmann> | bad gateway |
| 22:01 | <erlehmann> | http://validator.nu/ |
| 22:01 | <erlehmann> | here as well |