00:35
<MikeSmith>
http://www.w3.org/2014/automotive/data_spec.html
00:35
MikeSmith
peruses
00:36
<MikeSmith>
Domenic: the TAG might want to start looking at http://www.w3.org/2014/automotive/data_spec.html
00:37
<Domenic>
hmmm
00:41
<MikeSmith>
yeah, offered without comment
00:42
<MikeSmith>
but in the context of the fact there's a related draft charter for a WG (not just CG) http://www.w3.org/2014/automotive/charter.html
00:44
<Domenic>
i mean, having a hard time seeing browsers implement this, which drastically decreases my cares
00:45
<MikeSmith>
at this point, just that alone would be constructive feedback
00:47
<Domenic>
hmm, noted
00:47
<MikeSmith>
though I can imagine one or more vendors that seemed to be interested in this stuff and that have engineers hacking on blink/webkit forks might end up hacking this into a fork that they actually shiop from. wouldn't be the first time
00:47
<MikeSmith>
*seem to be
00:47
<Domenic>
world wide "web" consortium, eh? ;)
00:48
<MikeSmith>
for some definition of "web"
00:49
<MikeSmith>
btw somewhat related I like JakeA's "URL-driven Web" better than "drive-by Web" that others on the chrome team were tossing around in the past
00:49
<MikeSmith>
where both are used just to mean the actual Web
00:50
<MikeSmith>
as opposed to other things that aren't really the Web at all
00:51
<MikeSmith>
context: https://twitter.com/jaffathecake/status/540420208960483330
07:36
<JakeA>
MikeSmith: although I guess packaged web apps still have URLs, but they're more of by-product. I just really didn't want to say "drive-by web"
09:23
<MikeSmith>
JakeA: yeah understood
09:24
<MikeSmith>
JakeA: and btw we need books to be on the Web too, with URLs, and readable in browsers
09:25
<MikeSmith>
let's make 2015 the year that happens too
09:25
<MikeSmith>
no more music by the suckers
09:25
<JakeA>
MikeSmith: where does html + print stylesheets fall short in that regard?
09:26
<wilhelm_>
JakeA: Paging. Columns. Some common design patterns.
09:26
<MikeSmith>
yeah
09:26
<MikeSmith>
the paged-media stuff
09:27
<MikeSmith>
JakeA: but it's not so much that we're falling shor technically there, it's the the whole ebook publishing industry is currently structured around forcing users into user-hostile off-Web "reading system" applications (e.g., with no ability to copy text)
09:46
<JakeA>
True
09:47
<JakeA>
wilhelm_: CSS has paging and columns right?
14:17
<annevk>
MikeSmith: how is URL-driven web different from web?
14:17
<annevk>
Ah okay, used as pleonasm