TC39 Delegates on 2023-12-26

20:47	<TabAtkins>	snek: "kinda nuts that this moved forward" and "i don't have anything new to add" are in conflict. If you see something wrong, open an issue; don't just complain in the chatroom.
21:30	<snek>	apologies, I'll refrain from commenting on wicg matters in the future
21:38	<littledan>	heh I added issues and I didn't see a response from the repo maintainers. I don't know the right path for critical feedback on these sorts of proposals.
21:40	<littledan>	(I'm still not so happy that the README implies that TC39 prefers that this be done at the web platform level, or that it was presented to the committee in 2019; the complaints in TC39 about Observables the last time it was presented, in 2016, came from me and Domenic, and they were not about that. I did file an issue about this, and this is a TC39-related observation.)
21:41	<Chris de Almeida>	heh I added issues and I didn't see a response from the repo maintainers. I don't know the right path for critical feedback on these sorts of proposals. is Ben not a maintainer?
21:51	<littledan>	is Ben not a maintainer? OK, that's true, but it's Google employees who are doing most of the edits and merges, as well as the decisions on what to implement; I don't see a response from anyone from Google here. In TC39, we have our meetings to bring people together for these discussions; I don't know of an equivalent here.
21:53	<Chris de Almeida>	yeah, I don't think they have regular meetings. issues on the repo are the right place for feedback, but I'm not sure how to improve outcomes beyond perhaps `@` tagging folks but that's going to be excessive in many cases
21:55	<Chris de Almeida>	didn't mean to delete that message
22:13	<littledan>	(what did the deleted message say?)
22:24	<Chris de Almeida>	oh, it wasn't particularly valuable, so I didn't rewrite it. I was merely speculating on why feedback might be slow/limited, based on my observations of repo activity
22:25	<TabAtkins>	apologies, I'll refrain from commenting on wicg matters in the future That's exactly the wrong thing to take from my comment, and you know that. I don't understand why you're apparently reluctant to file an issue on something that you think is wrong.
22:27	<snek>	there are a lot of wrong things in the world. i don't have the time or inclination to deal with all of them. i'm sorry i expressed my opinion that way earlier in this channel, it would have been more appropriate elsewhere.