01:25
<bakkot>
I made a bot for rendering better (i.e., linkable) logs for matrix channels, for tc39's use. if ya'll would like I can have it do this channel too. currently logs are at https://bakkot.github.io/matrix-logs/, or you can run it yourself from https://github.com/bakkot/matrix-archive-bot
01:26
<bakkot>
logs are going to be a bit behind because I'm not bothering to have it monitor continuously
02:27
<sideshowbarker>
I made a bot for rendering better (i.e., linkable) logs for matrix channels, for tc39's use. if ya'll would like I can have it do this channel too. currently logs are at https://bakkot.github.io/matrix-logs/, or you can run it yourself from https://github.com/bakkot/matrix-archive-bot
It'd be great to have it log this channel too
02:53
<bakkot>
Done: https://bakkot.github.io/matrix-logs/WHATWG/
02:54
<sideshowbarker>
Done: https://bakkot.github.io/matrix-logs/WHATWG/
thanks much
04:54
<sideshowbarker>
For anybody here interested in helping improve content at MDN, https://github.com/mdn/content/issues/5523 is maybe a good first issue that would probably take only 30 minutes or so of work
04:56
<sideshowbarker>

The work would be writing some additional text that elaborates on the following statement:

Setting the value of location.href navigates to the provided URL. If you want redirection, use location.replace()

07:46
<zcorpan_>
zcorpan_: there was already a zcorpan without underscore? :-)
Yes. I signed up in 2019. Since then the account has been deactivated, not sure why. Don't know if it's possible to reactivate it :-(
07:48
<annevk>
zcorpan_: ah, sucks. You could probably find another server as well if you want and get an account there, but not sure how much effort you want to put into it.
07:51
<zcorpan_>
annevk: I'll wait until someone tells me it's possible to reclaim the old name :)
07:53
<MayeulC>
Well, you can still change your display name to one without the underscore.
07:55
<zcorpan>
πŸ‘
10:37
<sideshowbarker>
heya Sam Sneddon [:gsnedders]
10:37
<sideshowbarker>
annevk: if/when you have time, it would be good to have a comment from you at https://github.com/mdn/content/issues/5501
10:40
<Ms2ger>
πŸ‘‹
10:44
<annevk>
I wish Matrix had "done" / "ack" / "this" / etc. reactions besides emoji.
11:46
<sideshowbarker>
I wish Matrix had "done" / "ack" / "this" / etc. reactions besides emoji.
https://github.com/vector-im/element-web/issues/2648
11:48
<sideshowbarker>
Per that discussion, you can do it already in some Matrix clients
11:48
<sideshowbarker>
...just not in Element
12:28
<MayeulC>

I reacted with a few frequently-used examples:

  • βž• for +1
  • βœ… for done
  • 🧾 for ack
  • ☝️or πŸ‘†οΈ for this

You can send custom events via devtools in element, but it's a hassle. At the end of the day, it's a matter of convention. I quite liked some CI bot that indicated runner status with 🟒 πŸ”΄ 🟠.

12:29
<ryzokuken>
Fluffychat has pretty solid support for custom emotes already.
15:54
<lpd>
lpd: per spec I think Chrome is wrong and I don't think there's an issue on changing this
Hi, a new day and a fresh set of eyes, I noticed what I was looking for yesterday staring me right in the face: https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/interaction.html#focus-fixup-rule. Would you agree the correct behaviour is actually the other way around to what we discussed yesterday?
15:55
<lpd>
The language "removed from that Document in some way" seems pretty weird to me, but the examples are clear in my novice reading.
15:56
<annevk>
lpd: none of the examples are about rendering though, but that is indeed extremely ambiguous; it likely wouldn't pass review if written today
15:58
<lpd>
annevk: In the main text, I believe it's covered by "it stops being a focusable area", since for an input element to be a focusable area it must meet "the element is either being rendered or being used as relevant canvas fallback content."
15:58
<annevk>
I guess focusable area is defined in terms of being rendered, yeah
15:59
<lpd>
The example box specifically mentions the hidden attribute, but I'm not sure if those are normative?
16:00
<annevk>
However, it doesn't seem to invoke an algorithm to change the focused area, meaning no events would dispatch and such and it's a bit unclear what state would change
16:00
<annevk>
Examples are non-normative, but they're also not supposed to be wrong :-)
16:00
<annevk>
lpd: I guess at this point I'd lean towards an issue against whatwg/html though
16:01
annevk
wonders if there is one already
16:03
<annevk>
(I only found other issues)
16:04
<lpd>

designate the Document's viewport to be the new focused area of the document

annevk I believe the confusion comes from this, right? Whether this requires the focusing steps are run?

16:04
<annevk>
lpd: yeah
16:05
<lpd>
Cool thanks, I'll make one :)
18:35
<lpd>
https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/6729