| 10:06 | <annevk> | gsnedders, he did reply |
| 10:07 | <annevk> | gsnedders, http://doyouwanttodie.com/2007/03/27/more-changes/ is the link |
| 11:43 | <zcorpan__> | on tuesday i'm going to a job interview at opera for a summer job. hopefully i can work on a test suite for html5 then |
| 11:44 | <hasather> | zcorpan__: in Sweden? |
| 11:44 | <zcorpan__> | hasather: yes |
| 11:44 | <hasather> | cool, good luck |
| 11:44 | <zcorpan__> | thanks |
| 11:45 | <annevk> | and XMLHttpRequest! |
| 11:45 | <zcorpan__> | that also |
| 11:45 | <hsivonen> | zcorpan__: cool. and good luck. in Gothenburg? |
| 11:46 | <annevk> | Linkoping |
| 11:46 | <zcorpan__> | hsivonen: Linköping |
| 11:46 | <hsivonen> | oh. I didn't know Opera had offices there |
| 11:47 | <hasather> | also hoping to get a job at Opera this summer |
| 11:47 | <annevk> | Directly stealing all the smart students from university :) |
| 11:47 | <zcorpan__> | :) |
| 11:47 | <annevk> | At least, iirc there's a university in Linkoping |
| 11:47 | <zcorpan__> | i'm sure there is |
| 11:48 | <zcorpan__> | http://www.liu.se/ |
| 11:49 | <hsivonen> | (Linkoping sure looks weird without the ö) |
| 11:49 | zcorpan__ | agrees |
| 11:51 | <hsivonen> | curiously, the University of Aarhus has kept the ASCII-safe old spelling even though the city is now Århus |
| 11:52 | <annevk> | What would be better? Linkoeping? |
| 11:52 | <hsivonen> | annevk: please, no |
| 11:52 | <zcorpan__> | oe is german |
| 11:52 | <zcorpan__> | the ascii version of ö in swedish is o |
| 11:53 | <annevk> | hsivonen :) |
| 11:53 | <annevk> | fair enough |
| 11:54 | <Lachy> | good luck zcorpan__! |
| 11:54 | <zcorpan__> | Lachy: thanks |
| 11:56 | <zcorpan__> | although Koenigsegg doesn't follow the convention, even though it is a swedish car manufacturer (pronounced like "königsegg" in swedish but the official name is still Koenigsegg also in sweden) |
| 11:57 | <hsivonen> | zcorpan__: probably a German surname? |
| 11:57 | <zcorpan__> | ah. probably because the name came from a german statelet |
| 11:57 | <zcorpan__> | yeah |
| 11:58 | <zcorpan__> | or rather the surname of the founder |
| 19:35 | johnbend2 | greets |
| 19:40 | <tylerr> | Hi johnbend2. |
| 19:49 | <johnbend2> | hello tylerr |
| 19:50 | <johnbend2> | i just bumped into the whatwg website and saw alink to this channel. so i decided to pay a visit |
| 19:56 | <tylerr> | Ah lovely! Good to have you! |
| 19:56 | <johnbend2> | thanx |
| 20:00 | <johnbend2> | i have been doing a lot of research into how i can apply the concept of web applications to my business. i have been through most of the tutorials at w3, yet i am still don't have a solid grasp of the concepts as it applies to business. i was hoping someone could give me some directions |
| 20:01 | <h3h> | [obvious question] |
| 20:02 | <h3h> | (what's your business?) |
| 20:03 | <johnbend2> | i am into agricultural exportation |
| 20:05 | <johnbend2> | i want a system that's web based |
| 20:06 | <johnbend2> | where my employees and customers access the company's databases over the web |
| 20:07 | <johnbend2> | using only browsers |
| 20:08 | <johnbend2> | i feel it's the future and i want to be ready for it |
| 20:11 | <tylerr> | Sure. Have you looked into development frameworks? |
| 20:12 | <tylerr> | Such as Django/Ruby on Rails/PHP? |
| 20:12 | <tylerr> | Or are you looking for an enterprise solution? |
| 20:12 | <johnbend2> | where can i get a good guide on those? |
| 20:13 | <tylerr> | johnbend2: Do you mind if I PM you? |
| 20:13 | <johnbend2> | ok |
| 20:14 | <tylerr> | PM sent. |
| 20:40 | <tylerr> | Hmm... |
| 20:40 | <tylerr> | I was going to help that chap out. |
| 21:16 | <zcorpan> | in rtl languages, are table header cells on the right hand side instead of on the left? |
| 21:18 | <zcorpan> | oh, they are already rendered reversed with dir=rtl. nm |
| 22:24 | <johnbendi> | hello room |
| 22:25 | <zcorpan> | hello johnbendi |
| 22:25 | <johnbendi> | how are you, zcorpan? |
| 22:26 | <zcorpan> | i'm fine, thanks |
| 22:26 | <zcorpan> | i'm reviewing the xmlhttprequest spec today |
| 22:26 | <tylerr> | Hi johnbendi. |
| 22:26 | <tylerr> | Welcome back. |
| 22:26 | <tylerr> | You disappeared on me. :-) |
| 22:26 | <johnbendi> | no, i told you i'll be back |
| 22:27 | <tylerr> | Oh? Hah, I suppose I disappeared before I saw that, and my client crashed on me. |
| 22:27 | <tylerr> | I went to lunch. :-) |
| 22:27 | <johnbendi> | i hope you enjoyed it |
| 22:28 | <tylerr> | It was... interesting. They got my order wrong and I ended up with a hot dog covered with macaroni instead of a cup of macaroni with hot dog slices in it. |
| 22:29 | <johnbendi> | it happens |
| 22:30 | <tylerr> | Anyway johnbendi, I was curious to know if you were looking for an enterprise solution, something like an extranet for your company. |
| 22:31 | <johnbendi> | an extranet sounds like a good idea |
| 22:31 | <tylerr> | Let me send you another PM. :-) |
| 22:32 | <johnbendi> | ok |
| 22:36 | <bewest> | johnbendi: use atom publishing protocol :-) |
| 22:36 | <bewest> | solves 80% of what you mentioned |
| 22:37 | <tylerr> | johnbendi: Did you receive my PMs? |
| 22:37 | <bewest> | and since it's a standardized opaque interface, you can change implementations when the need arises |
| 22:37 | <johnbendi> | yes |
| 22:37 | <johnbendi> | i replied |
| 22:38 | <tylerr> | Interesting. |
| 22:38 | <tylerr> | I saw nothing, and still see nothing. |
| 22:38 | <tylerr> | That would explain why I didn't see you saying you were going to leave for a bit earlier. |
| 22:38 | <johnbendi> | ok i will try and close the window and pm you |
| 22:38 | <tylerr> | You're registered with the server correct? |
| 22:39 | <tylerr> | Ah good good. |
| 22:39 | <tylerr> | Let's try that. |
| 22:39 | <johnbendi> | did you get the pm |
| 22:39 | <tylerr> | That I did not. |
| 22:39 | <johnbendi> | but i see yours |
| 22:39 | <tylerr> | Hmm |
| 22:40 | <tylerr> | One moment. |
| 22:40 | <tylerr> | Okay, can you please try again? |
| 22:41 | <johnbendi> | bewest: sounds interesting |
| 22:42 | <johnbendi> | tylerr: are you working on it |
| 22:42 | <bewest> | johnbendi: yes, it's good technology |
| 22:42 | <johnbendi> | i will definitely check it out |
| 22:42 | <johnbendi> | any web links |
| 22:42 | <tylerr> | johnbendi: For some reason I cannot get your PMs |
| 22:42 | <tylerr> | Let me try something. |
| 22:42 | <johnbendi> | ok |
| 22:43 | <tylerr> | Okay, try joining #thegoods |
| 22:43 | <johnbendi> | on freenode? |
| 22:43 | <tylerr> | YEs |
| 22:43 | <tylerr> | *yes |
| 22:43 | <bewest> | johnbendi: well, the technology is a standard for a protocol for exchanging and organizing information on the web... so I think what you are probably interested in is probably an implementation of atom publishing protocol |
| 22:44 | <bewest> | johnbendi: while I have yet to use this myself in a production project, I'd suggest looking at http://trac.defuze.org/wiki/amplee |
| 22:45 | <johnbendi> | thanx so much |
| 22:46 | <bewest> | no problem |
| 23:44 | <othermaciej> | Hixie: Apple's media folks pointed out a lot of stuff in the WHATWG <video> draft where probably you are just not done merging from our proposal yet |
| 23:44 | <othermaciej> | Hixie: should I tell them to send their comments anyway or ask them to wait? |
| 23:45 | <othermaciej> | Hixie: I think justifications for some of our design might be useful even if you haven't considered the point yet |
| 23:48 | <Hixie> | feel free to send but yeah i'm nowhere near done mergeing |
| 23:48 | <Hixie> | merging |