| 01:10 | <zcorpan_> | http://wcagsamurai.org/ errata now published |
| 01:21 | zcorpan_ | notes that <noscript> is banned |
| 08:08 | <annevk> | geez |
| 08:19 | <annevk> | (the geez was in reply to the responses to my CRLF post) |
| 08:19 | <annevk> | http://www.css3.info/pulling-back-the-curtain-opening-up-the-css-working-group/ |
| 08:24 | <annevk> | awesome, the google suggest code actually works :) |
| 08:25 | annevk | gave a presentation at Opera yesterday and then someone went ahead and scripted a back end |
| 08:31 | <zcorpan> | annevk: pointer? |
| 09:14 | <annevk> | zcorpan, http://simon.html5.org/sandbox/html/suggest/ ;) |
| 09:14 | <zcorpan> | annevk: ah, thanks :) |
| 09:15 | <annevk> | you should probably change it slightly to include a doctype :) |
| 09:15 | <zcorpan> | why? |
| 09:15 | <annevk> | to make it validate? |
| 09:15 | <annevk> | guess it doesn't really matter |
| 09:16 | <zcorpan> | wouldn't validate even with a doctype |
| 09:16 | <annevk> | hmm fair enough |
| 09:18 | <Fuzzy76> | annevk: To avoid quirks mode. Without a doctype, browsers will think your site is coded for Netscape 4 type parsing and will differ wildly from the standard when interpreting your site. |
| 09:18 | <Fuzzy76> | (and differ from eachother as well) |
| 09:18 | <zcorpan> | parsing doesn't differ wildly |
| 09:18 | <krijn> | Wow, what's this quirks mode thing? |
| 09:19 | <Fuzzy76> | zcorpan: No, but interpreting and rendering does. |
| 09:19 | <Fuzzy76> | ouch |
| 09:19 | <annevk> | Fuzzy76, rendering is slightly different, yes |
| 09:19 | annevk | works for a browser vendor... |
| 09:19 | <Fuzzy76> | I suddenly realized what channel I'm in. :) I would presume people in _here_ knows what quirks mode is. :-$ |
| 09:19 | <annevk> | we do |
| 09:19 | <krijn> | :) |
| 09:19 | Fuzzy76 | removes his foot from his mouth ;) |
| 09:20 | <Fuzzy76> | I hang around in a couple of web-related channels where the general knowledge is a bit lower. :p |
| 09:34 | <zcorpan> | "HTML 5 can and will do whatever idea pops into anyone's head. I hope the CSS working group can be a bit more discerning!" -- http://www.w3.org/mid/46683D8C.40609⊙tc |
| 09:38 | <annevk> | ... |
| 10:02 | mpt | tries not to let the <crash/> element pop into his head |
| 10:08 | <annevk> | it implies <body>, so you should be fine |
| 10:09 | <annevk> | although... |
| 10:27 | hsivonen | doesn't like the idea that HTML WG members have to review mobileOk to avoid random third parties implying all-encompassing W3C endorsement |
| 10:28 | <hsivonen> | "a simple and largely hypothetical mobile user agent" yeah, right |
| 12:09 | <drcode> | hi all |
| 12:09 | <drcode> | any one can help me with xpath? |
| 12:09 | <annevk> | wrong channel really |
| 14:59 | <annevk> | hsivonen, JavaScript \r\n becomes \n |
| 14:59 | annevk | wonders why XML does not normalize character references |
| 15:37 | <annevk> | http://dutchcelt.nl/weblog/comments/html_working_group/ :) |
| 15:51 | <krijn> | Yeah, he's blogging again :) |
| 15:52 | <krijn> | Weird his feed doesn't work anymore |
| 15:53 | <annevk> | I had some issues with commenting |
| 15:53 | <annevk> | Guess it's still in the works |
| 15:55 | <krijn> | Grmbl, he deleted my blog from his links ;+ |
| 15:55 | <krijn> | So that's what you get when you give 410 responses :) |
| 15:56 | <krijn> | Ow, wait |
| 15:56 | <annevk> | it's still there... |
| 15:56 | <krijn> | That's the "Ow, wait" part ;) |
| 15:58 | <krijn> | Comment spammers kept hitting me btw, even though I sent 410 headers |
| 15:58 | <annevk> | spammers don't have standards |
| 15:59 | <krijn> | They do follow 301's and 302's though :) |
| 15:59 | <annevk> | I didn't say they were stupid :) |
| 15:59 | <krijn> | Location: http://fuck.you/ |
| 15:59 | <annevk> | although, arguably |
| 16:06 | <krijn> | "If you don't want to receive this spam email me at abuse⊙ci with url of your site. Thanks." |
| 16:06 | <krijn> | :D |
| 18:03 | <Philip`> | http://metavid.ucsc.edu/blog/2007/06/07/html5-video-the-future-is-now/ - <video> seems to be inspiring work from quite a few people |
| 18:09 | <maikmerten> | oh, yes, <video> is pretty fancy |
| 18:09 | <maikmerten> | too bad http://metavid.ucsc.edu/wiki_dev/mv_embed/sample_page.php bombs out for me with a JavaScript error |
| 18:09 | maikmerten | reports |
| 18:10 | <maikmerten> | hmm... according to their page they should be in #metavid |
| 18:11 | <maikmerten> | currently I don't see any of the metavid regulars in #annodex or #theora, so I'll just wait |