| 12:51 | <annevk> | https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/es-discuss/2008-August/003400.html sounds promising |
| 12:53 | <annevk> | already mentioned it seems |
| 12:53 | annevk | reads logs |
| 13:15 | <annevk> | btw, anyone going to be in Cambridge, UK next week who is up for meeting? |
| 13:15 | <annevk> | the CSS WG is meeting Wednesday-Friday and I'll be there those days |
| 13:58 | <gsnedders> | annevk: AFAIK jgraham and Philip` are the only ones there. Pinging them directly may work better :) |
| 14:07 | <annevk> | if this doesn't work out I'll do that |
| 14:08 | <annevk> | hmm, no new Ubuntu security updates in a week, impressive |
| 14:28 | Philip` | will most likely be in Cambridge then |
| 14:29 | gsnedders | will be at school :( |
| 14:30 | <annevk> | meeting in the evening would be best for me |
| 14:31 | <gsnedders> | annevk: You better not ask Philip` where or when to meet :) |
| 14:31 | <annevk> | I'm leaving Saturday morning and I believe there's at least some group activity planned for Wednesday but other days work |
| 15:39 | jgraham | is in sunny Cambridge all next week and would quite happily meet up with annevk |
| 15:39 | jgraham | assumes that will get noticed in the logs |
| 15:49 | gsnedders | wishes it was sunny here |
| 15:50 | jgraham | was being slightly ironic (although it isn't too bad today, it did rain most of last week) |
| 15:50 | gsnedders | notes it is normally far more sunny in Cambridge than it is here |
| 15:53 | <takkaria> | jgraham: I like your latest pictures on flickr... how did you go about getting http://www.flickr.com/photos/jgraham/2737000236/in/photostream/? |
| 15:53 | jgraham | notes that this is gsnedders fault for living somewhere with such notoriously bad weather as Scotland |
| 15:53 | <gsnedders> | jgraham: The east cost has less rain than Rome! |
| 15:53 | <gsnedders> | *coast |
| 15:54 | <gsnedders> | jgraham: Besides, it's my parents fault! |
| 15:57 | <jgraham> | takkaria: The flowers one was just my 60mm macro lens wide open and focussed through some small foreground flowers to give the hazy effect at the front. I had the square crop in mind and used lightroom to do the split toning and to add the vignetting |
| 15:57 | <jgraham> | Lightroom is awesome. |
| 15:57 | <jgraham> | The things that it does well it does so easilly that it feels like cheating |
| 16:03 | gsnedders | needs to decide what to do for his computing project! |
| 16:03 | gsnedders | is too indecisive |
| 16:03 | jgraham | thought gsnedders was trying to decide this over a week ago |
| 16:04 | gsnedders | was |
| 16:04 | gsnedders | is still too indecisive :) |
| 16:05 | jgraham | suggests gsnedders decides before the deadline for completing it |
| 16:05 | <gsnedders> | :) |
| 16:20 | <takkaria> | jgraham: ah, interesting, thanks |
| 16:21 | <takkaria> | gsnedders: I suggest nothing that'll ever be useful, because it's kind of heartbreaking to spend months on a computing project just to throw it away |
| 16:21 | <jgraham> | takkaria: Why the requirement that you throw it away? |
| 16:22 | <takkaria> | well, you don't throw it away, it just never gets used by anyone |
| 16:22 | <takkaria> | for my A-level computing project I wrote a web-based accounting package for a debt management company |
| 16:22 | <takkaria> | sadly, my brother left the place before I'd finished it |
| 16:23 | <takkaria> | and that was that, it never got used |
| 16:23 | <jgraham> | I guess it depends what you do. Is there some requirement that you can't release it as open source afterwards |
| 16:23 | <jgraham> | for example? |
| 16:23 | <takkaria> | I suppose so |
| 16:23 | <gsnedders> | jgraham: Here, there isn't. |
| 16:24 | jgraham | didn't do A-level computing but the projects that people did all seemed to be boring database+VBA type jobs |
| 16:24 | <jgraham> | s/people/people he knew/ |
| 16:24 | <takkaria> | but afaik most computing syllabusses tend to make doing anything that's vaguely interesting quite hard |
| 16:24 | <takkaria> | at least, all the ones I've seen have |
| 16:24 | <jgraham> | Maybe Scotland is better |
| 16:25 | <gsnedders> | Oh, the syllabus here bores me |
| 16:27 | <jgraham> | Well I guess they have the requirement that unless 30% of people can get an A then its too hard |
| 16:28 | <gsnedders> | jgraham: AH is harder than A-Level :P |
| 16:28 | <jgraham> | gsnedders: Even so |
| 17:31 | <gsnedders> | jgraham: I think I'll just do the variation of your idea, i.e., a feed reader with sorting by interest |
| 17:39 | <Philip`> | gsnedders: I suggest not deciding on a project - just develop a framework within which you could develop your project in the hypothetical event that you decide on one |
| 17:39 | <Philip`> | Everyone loves frameworks |
| 17:45 | <Philip`> | I have an idea for a very useful program: One where you take a photo of a collection of many nearly-identical-looking unpaired socks, and the program analyses the image and tells you how to pair them up correctly |
| 17:46 | <jgraham> | Develop a machine learing algorithm that cn deduce whether you are likely to enjoy a particular project based on other projects that you have started |
| 17:48 | <jcranmer> | or finished |
| 18:17 | <hsivonen> | zcorpan: <svg></body> in live dom fixed. thanks. |
| 18:17 | <hsivonen> | (the fix was putting in something that does nothing but that the GWT compiler can't prove does nothing, thus protecting stuff immediately after getting optimized away) |
| 18:18 | <hsivonen> | s/getting/from getting/ |
| 22:15 | jgraham | wonders why people keep asking for clarifications of the alt section |
| 22:18 | <jgraham> | It seems pretty clear at the moment. I can't decide if there is a real lack of understanding or if it is because having a quote from Hixie saying somehing like "images in emails targeted at known recipients are not required to contain alt text" is has greater moral weight than the spec saying it |
| 22:19 | <jgraham> | s/is// |
| 22:31 | <jgraham> | I guess 4.7.2.1.3. could be clear that logos always require alt text unless the provisions of 4.7.2.1.10. apply |
| 22:33 | <jgraham> | It should probabaly also be made clear what happens if the author doesn't think that any of the provisions apply |
| 22:33 | <jgraham> | i.e. if they have some use of an image that isn't explicitly mentioned |
| 23:02 | <gsnedders> | jgraham: There shouldn't be trailing full stop characters in the section numbers! That's breaking ISO 2145! :P |