| 00:38 | <utilisateur> | ok so.. |
| 01:10 | <utilisateur> | na nannaaaaaaa |
| 13:56 | gsnedders_mibbit | waves |
| 13:56 | <gsnedders_mibbit> | my computer is broken :\ |
| 13:57 | <Philip`> | Clearly you need more computers |
| 13:57 | <Philip`> | Redundancy is the solution to all problems |
| 13:57 | <gsnedders_mibbit> | clearly |
| 16:38 | <yecril71> | I think a footnote deserves a dedicated element. |
| 16:39 | <yecril71> | It belongs to the standard repertoire of typesetting and publishing. |
| 16:40 | <yecril71> | If we recommend using aside.footnote, why not div.article? |
| 16:41 | <yecril71> | A footnote is much more used than aside, and it has a different meaning. |
| 16:41 | <yecril71> | An aside contains an illustration for the main text, |
| 16:42 | <yecril71> | a footnote is for in-depth explanation of details. |
| 17:28 | <mpt> | I think asides are more common on the Web than footnotes are |
| 17:28 | <mpt> | In books probably the reverse is true |
| 17:29 | Philip` | wonders if that's just a consequence of the commonly available layout models |
| 17:31 | <Philip`> | (Book pages tend not to have enough space for putting asides in sidebars, and web pages tend not to have nearby feet in which to put footnotes) |
| 18:14 | <takkaria> | the footnote issue is a weird one |
| 18:41 | hsivonen | learns that KML uses escaped presentational HTML inside XML |
| 20:34 | <yecril71> | Several publishers want to have their own version of HTML. |
| 20:34 | <yecril71> | This is all right, as long as they write for each other. |
| 20:35 | <yecril71> | They will have to implement and share the same browser as well. |
| 20:35 | <yecril71> | The Web is for people the publisher has never heard of. |
| 20:36 | <yecril71> | The publisher cannot expect them to use their browser. |
| 20:36 | <yecril71> | So this initiative is doomed to end up in a closed circle. |
| 20:36 | <Lachy> | yecril71, WTF? |
| 20:37 | <yecril71> | I mean, Pentasis and Pascual. |
| 20:38 | <yecril71> | Such custom formats are better served with XML though. |
| 20:38 | <Lachy> | oh, I haven't read that thread yet |
| 22:22 | <BenMillard> | Philip`, are you active? I'm going through pages in your q-tags.txt but some uses of <q> have gone: http://philip.html5.org/data/q-tags.txt |
| 22:22 | <BenMillard> | specifically, I can't find <q> on http://phoenix.lowtech.org/ |
| 22:28 | <BenMillard> | also http://www.cotswoldlibdems.org.uk/ |
| 23:33 | <BenMillard> | there's another LibDem site which uses the same markup and design as the Cotswolds one, so I've given them the same analysis |
| 23:34 | <Philip`> | BenMillard: I'm not especially active |
| 23:40 | <takkaria> | just the occasional walk, then? |
| 23:44 | <BenMillard> | Philip`, no worries. I'm noting "Gone" and reviewing as best I can from the sample markup in that text file. |
| 23:44 | <BenMillard> | so far, I've been able to review all of them thanks to the sample :) |
| 23:45 | <Philip`> | BenMillard: I don't have an entirely trivial way to see the content from the versions of the pages that I downloaded, so it's probably easier to try archive.org for them |