| 00:00 | <Midler> | ok |
| 00:03 | <Philip`> | It'd seem silly five years from now when the new UI paradigm doesn't have the concept of tabs |
| 00:03 | <Midler> | ye, i know |
| 00:04 | <Midler> | All browsers nowadays has tabs |
| 00:04 | <Midler> | However, u might want for some reason (that i cant get right now), open a page in a new window |
| 00:05 | <Midler> | Example, instead of javascript window.open |
| 00:05 | <Philip`> | Like target="_blank"? |
| 00:05 | <Midler> | yes |
| 00:05 | <Midler> | Somethimes _blank |
| 00:05 | <Midler> | and (most of the thime) _tab |
| 00:06 | <Midler> | but know when i think of it, target seems useless |
| 00:06 | <Philip`> | I think Opera already loads target=_blank into a new tab by default |
| 00:06 | <Midler> | most browser does by default |
| 00:06 | <Midler> | but thats the thing |
| 00:07 | <Midler> | If you by some reason dont want to open a page up in a new tab, then what? |
| 00:07 | <Midler> | I cant come to think of any of these moments |
| 00:07 | <Midler> | right now* |
| 00:09 | Philip` | knows this has been discussed before but can't remember the relevant arguments, and so goes to bed instead :-) |
| 00:10 | <Midler> | Hm, well |
| 00:10 | <Midler> | google had some javascript examples somewhere |
| 00:10 | <othermaciej> | hi everyone |
| 00:10 | <Midler> | And one of the example was about moving a ball thru different windows |
| 00:11 | <Midler> | Cant remember the page |
| 00:12 | <Midler> | Multiple windows interacting with each other* |
| 00:14 | <Philip`> | http://www.chromeexperiments.com/detail/browser-ball/ ? |
| 00:15 | <Midler> | jup |
| 00:15 | <Midler> | thats the one |
| 00:16 | <Dashiva> | Midler: The user has the choice to open in window and tab, that's all you need |
| 00:36 | <Midler> | Is there anyone here that have some time to spend and listen to my stupid questions =) |
| 00:36 | <Midler> | ? |
| 00:37 | <annevk2> | just write them down |
| 00:37 | <annevk2> | stuff is logged, maybe some day you'll get a reply :) |
| 00:38 | <Midler> | ^^ |
| 00:38 | <Midler> | Well, for example |
| 00:38 | <Midler> | typing <!-- --> all the time to write a comment is quite...well |
| 00:38 | Midler | is a lazy guy |
| 00:39 | <Midler> | And second of all (i dont know if its within the standardisation) |
| 00:39 | <Midler> | But favicon |
| 00:39 | <Midler> | I would like to be able to have favicons in .png and .svg |
| 00:39 | <Midler> | And in bigger size for a reason |
| 00:40 | <Midler> | There is ppl that for example saves the homepage as a link on their desktop |
| 00:40 | <Midler> | And usually it will be desplayed with the broswer loggo |
| 00:40 | <annevk2> | you can do that by using the sizes attribute on <link> |
| 00:41 | <Midler> | well, but right now favicon has a maxsize doesnt it? |
| 00:42 | <Midler> | And also, as more stuffs is getting on the web. A link with the page logos instead of browser logo could be something to consider, but that means bigger logos |
| 01:01 | <Midler> | hmm |
| 01:02 | <Midler> | target is also implemented in area |
| 01:04 | <Midler> | If you take the example from w3c |
| 01:04 | <Midler> | http://www.w3schools.com/tags/html5_map.asp |
| 01:04 | <Midler> | Would you like that to open in a new tab, or blank? |
| 01:04 | Midler | would prefer window.open |
| 01:04 | <Midler> | so i answered myself ofcourse :P |
| 12:21 | takkaria | is now in Sweden |
| 12:36 | Philip` | offers condolences |
| 12:37 | <takkaria> | :) |
| 12:49 | <MikeSmith> | takkaria: you know yet what you'll be working on? |
| 13:03 | <Philip`> | gsnedders: http://gsnedders.html5.org/outliner/process.py?url=--%3E%3Cscript%3Ealert('haxxored')%3C/script%3E |
| 13:35 | <MikeSmith> | hmm, the spec's not particularly consistent about making it clear whether a particular attribute is required or not |
| 13:36 | <MikeSmith> | e.g., for the source element |
| 13:36 | <MikeSmith> | http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/video.html#the-source-element |
| 13:36 | <MikeSmith> | the spec doesn't say whether the media element is optional or required |
| 13:37 | <MikeSmith> | I guess readers are meant to infer that if the spec doesn't explicitly say a particular attributed is "required" or "must be present", it's optional |
| 13:38 | <takkaria> | MikeSmith: I'm on the opera Mini team apparently |
| 13:43 | <MikeSmith> | takkaria: really, on Opera Mini team? |
| 13:43 | <MikeSmith> | great team |
| 13:43 | <MikeSmith> | I reckon you're going to have a chance to do some pretty interesting stuff |
| 13:43 | <MikeSmith> | you're going to be coding, right? |
| 13:46 | <MikeSmith> | cool to see somebody actually implementing <datagrid> |
| 13:46 | <MikeSmith> | hey Rik` |
| 13:47 | <Rik`> | hey MikeSmith |
| 13:49 | <hsivonen> | whoa! who is implementing datagrid? |
| 13:49 | <hsivonen> | with all the copious CSS pseudos within? |
| 13:49 | <MikeSmith> | hsivonen: webkit |
| 13:49 | <MikeSmith> | dhyatt |
| 13:49 | <MikeSmith> | https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26545#c1 |
| 13:49 | <hsivonen> | interesting |
| 13:50 | <MikeSmith> | [[ |
| 13:50 | <MikeSmith> | This implementation may end up being very different from what's in the spec. |
| 13:50 | <MikeSmith> | The goal is to create a simpler implementation that can help improve the spec. |
| 13:50 | <MikeSmith> | ]] |
| 14:01 | jgraham | wonders if hsivonen was expecting <datagrid> to be quietly dropped :) |
| 14:07 | <hsivonen> | jgraham: I was expecting it to get dropped. not necessarily quietly |
| 20:07 | <Philip`> | Hixie: You might want to remove svenāzc from the WHATWG list, else he'll probably send an "I'm not here" email once a day for the next week |
| 23:51 | <Philip`> | gsnedders: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/whatwg/20090621#l-155 in case you missed it earlier |