| 00:05 | <othermaciej> | nessy: we shall see! I think things will be fine |
| 00:06 | <nessy> | I look forward to the further discussion! |
| 00:10 | <JonathanNeal> | TabAtkins, all right, I'm halfway through the new parser. |
| 00:38 | <TabAtkins> | Woo, first pass of new table-layout algorithm, custom-designed for Template Layout. www.xanthir.com/:tm7 |
| 00:41 | <Hixie> | JonathanNeal: btw it's spelt conceal, not conseal :-) |
| 00:41 | <JonathanNeal> | Shame on me. |
| 00:41 | <JonathanNeal> | :) |
| 00:42 | <estellevw> | JonathanNeal: did you post yet? |
| 00:43 | <JonathanNeal> | I posted the first version @ http://www.iecss.com/print-protector/ |
| 00:43 | <estellevw> | cool |
| 00:43 | <estellevw> | now i can tweet it |
| 00:43 | <JonathanNeal> | but the next version uses an idea TabAtkins pitched where I parse through the stylesheets and generate a secondary HTML5 css file that works with classnames. |
| 00:43 | <JonathanNeal> | Wellllll I dunno if we wanna tweet it yet, do we? |
| 00:59 | <Philip`> | JonathanNeal: Since you've mentioned it on IRC, surely it'll spread onto and around the Twitsphere by itself, so it's too late to try to stop it now |
| 01:00 | <JonathanNeal> | Yeap. |
| 01:00 | <JonathanNeal> | Can't I make your glass half full ever, Philip`? :) |
| 01:01 | <Philip`> | I don't expect you can fill that precisely - it'll always be slightly more or slightly less than half full |
| 01:02 | <paul_irish> | :) JonathanNeal i think its a good time to start leaking out |
| 01:02 | <JonathanNeal> | Yea go for it! |
| 01:14 | <JonathanNeal> | I finished the new version. |
| 01:17 | <JonathanNeal> | http://www.iecss.com/print-protector/example_print_iepp_1-2-0.html |
| 01:18 | TabAtkins | will try to print it when he gets home. |
| 01:19 | <JonathanNeal> | TabAtkins, you can see the new code @ http://www.iecss.com/print-protector/javascript/iepp.1-2-0.js |
| 01:48 | <boblet> | JonathanNeal: nice work on iepp! |
| 01:50 | <boblet> | “is piece of javascript” → “is a piece of javascript” |
| 01:51 | <JonathanNeal> | Good catch, updated. |
| 01:51 | <JonathanNeal> | boblet, you have a copy of ie? |
| 01:52 | <boblet> | yes, but in a VM that is broken :/ |
| 01:52 | <boblet> | so I guess that’s kinda no huh |
| 01:53 | boblet | fails at replying |
| 02:02 | <JonathanNeal> | :) |
| 02:13 | <MikeSmith> | Hixie: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9472 (deal with broken links in dynamic author view of spec by prompting users to choose to switch to full view) |
| 02:13 | <MikeSmith> | from discussion last monday |
| 02:14 | <MikeSmith> | I didn't manage to get around to raising it til now |
| 02:16 | <MikeSmith> | btw, I notice something else while looking at a validator.nu bug about option/@type=selected descendants of select/@multiple elements |
| 02:16 | <MikeSmith> | http://bugzilla.validator.nu/show_bug.cgi?id=734 |
| 02:17 | <MikeSmith> | er, not type=selected of course, but just selected |
| 02:18 | <MikeSmith> | anyway, I can't find anywhere in the spec that states the conformance constraint that an option/@selected can only occur as a descendant of select/@multiple |
| 02:20 | <MikeSmith> | in contrast, the section on the file-upload state for the input element has a paragraph explicitly marked with a "Constraint validation" subhead that says, "Unless the multiple attribute is set, there must be no more than one file in the list of selected files" |
| 02:20 | <MikeSmith> | http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/forms.html#file-upload-state |
| 02:33 | <MikeSmith> | er, I guess the "Constraint validation" part is not relevant here, but the paragraph I cited that follows it is |
| 02:35 | <MikeSmith> | http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9473 |
| 02:38 | <JonathanNeal> | Okay! http://www.iecss.com/print-protector/ --- updated! Happy weekend, everyone! |
| 02:44 | gsnedders | waves |
| 02:44 | <MikeSmith> | gsnedders: hey |
| 02:44 | <gsnedders> | MikeSmith: I bought The Third Policeman, BTW |
| 02:45 | <MikeSmith> | are you waving goodbye, hello, or waving for help? |
| 02:45 | <MikeSmith> | gsnedders: ah, great book |
| 02:45 | <gsnedders> | waving hello |
| 02:45 | <MikeSmith> | well, I envy you for being able to read The Third Policeman for the first time |
| 02:47 | gsnedders | is going to end up writing a terrible blog post that he'll scrap, again... |
| 02:50 | gsnedders | rambles on endlessly |
| 02:50 | <MikeSmith> | publish it under an assumed name |
| 02:50 | <gsnedders> | That won't help. It's still nonsense. |
| 02:50 | <MikeSmith> | e.g. Geoffrey Snedders O'Brien |
| 02:50 | <MikeSmith> | that'll throw people off |
| 02:51 | gsnedders | still wants to finally start the art project he's had in his mind for a while |
| 02:52 | <gsnedders> | But everytime I think about it, I think of another way I have to conseal my identity |
| 02:52 | <gsnedders> | Like, to properly have an anon blog is a load of work |
| 02:57 | <MikeSmith> | gsnedders: here's another idea - just start a "The Fake Geoffrey Snedders Blog" and write stuff that would fit the stereotype that others might have of your private thoughts |
| 02:58 | <MikeSmith> | people would read it and chuckle about it and say, Man, whoever this guy is, he's got Geoffrey pegged |
| 02:59 | <gsnedders> | :P |
| 02:59 | <gsnedders> | So, basically, act emo? |
| 03:02 | <MikeSmith> | act like you're somebody who's not emo but who's trying to act emo |
| 03:02 | <gsnedders> | Man, that's a lot of acting |
| 03:04 | <MikeSmith> | well, it's only acting like you're not yourself but actually just being yourself |
| 03:05 | <MikeSmith> | a celebration of yourself |
| 03:05 | <gsnedders> | But that wouldn't be matching the stereotype |
| 03:05 | <MikeSmith> | well, that's why it's the Fake Geoffrey Snedders Blog |
| 03:06 | <MikeSmith> | it's a chance for you to explore another side of yourself |
| 03:06 | <MikeSmith> | the self-parody side |
| 03:06 | <gsnedders> | The wreckless, fearless, uncompromising one? |
| 03:06 | <MikeSmith> | The Third Policeman will give you some inspiration |
| 03:06 | <MikeSmith> | gsnedders: the laughing-through-the-tears side |
| 03:07 | <gsnedders> | Like I don't do that already. |
| 03:07 | <gsnedders> | I mean, all the world's a stage. |
| 03:07 | <MikeSmith> | yep |
| 03:07 | <MikeSmith> | and you are the star |
| 03:07 | <MikeSmith> | the tragic hero |
| 03:08 | <MikeSmith> | tragic comedy |
| 03:08 | <MikeSmith> | celebrate yourself in the manner of Walt Whitman |
| 03:08 | <MikeSmith> | except with humor like Flann O'Brien |
| 03:08 | <JonathanNeal> | heyo, hey MikeSmith :) |
| 03:09 | <MikeSmith> | JonathanNeal: word up |
| 03:09 | <gsnedders> | Someday I'll just have to scream out in here that I'm married. |
| 03:09 | <gsnedders> | And that I'll start being euphoric all the time |
| 03:09 | <JonathanNeal> | ... |
| 03:09 | <gsnedders> | And get rid of this entire persona people have of me. |
| 03:09 | <JonathanNeal> | gsnedders, you okay? |
| 03:10 | <gsnedders> | JonathanNeal: Yeah, this is what happens when you enter mid-conversation |
| 03:11 | <gsnedders> | I mean, if I posted that on the Fake gsnedders Blog it'd blatantly be fake. |
| 03:49 | <wirepair> | are there any plans to reserve a port for websockets? or is it up to the developer to choose? |
| 03:50 | <wirepair> | or only on the usual http/https ports? |
| 03:51 | <wirepair> | nm, it's in the ietf draft ;> |
| 11:59 | <annevk> | http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2010/04/interesting-times-for-video-on-web.html |
| 12:07 | <Philip`> | Summary for lazy people: Google is helping fund an ARM code optimised version of the Theora video codec |
| 12:13 | <annevk> | ah great, saves me some reading |
| 12:13 | <annevk> | :p |
| 12:21 | <KaOSoFt> | Good morning. |
| 15:45 | <mikelifeguard> | What doctype(s) must I use for a page including <video> to validate? |
| 15:49 | <annevk> | <!doctype html> |
| 15:55 | <mikelifeguard> | What'll happen to old or ancient browsers that see the html5 doctype? |
| 15:56 | <annevk> | nothing |
| 16:13 | <divya> | mikelifeguard: http://www.w3.org/TR/html5-diff/#doctype |
| 18:13 | <estellevw> | good morning everyone |
| 18:15 | <KaOSoFt> | Good morning. |