00:30
<ajnewbold>
heya gsnedders
08:19
<hsivonen>
Hixie: you left XForms in the abstract of XBL2
09:11
<annevk>
hsivonen, doesn't really matter does it?
09:27
<hsivonen>
annevk: depends on whether people think that's a use case that has to be supported and start sending in requirements along those lines
09:29
<annevk>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/sep/11/science-stephen-hawking-brian-cox is an interesting read
09:30
<annevk>
hsivonen, mkay...
12:10
<karlcow>
http://lint.brihten.com/html/
12:11
<karlcow>
>HTML Lint is a tool that makes sure your code looks good. While XHTML was very strict with syntax HTML 5 is more lenient like previous versions of HTML, which means keeping consistent code styles will become more difficult. Validating is not good enough anymore.
12:11
<karlcow>
--- http://lint.brihten.com/html/help
17:49
<llrcombs>
I've just noticed a flaw in the registerContentHandler API
17:50
<llrcombs>
it'd likely choke on files downloaded from servers you have to login to
19:53
hober
is working on the ISSUE-41 null CP
19:55
<hober>
I'm trying to find use-cases for DE that can't be met by HTML's existing extension mechanisms.
19:56
<Philip`>
Isn't that a job for the non-null CPs?
19:57
<hober>
Oddly, the non-null CPs don't do that
19:57
<hober>
they describe classes of extensions, but don't provide motivating use-cases for such extension classes
19:57
<webben>
hober: "existing" - does that exclude microdata and RDFa?
19:58
<hober>
anyway, I thought there would at least be use-cases not currently addressed that I could at least say "and it's a good thing that HTML doesn't address them"
19:58
<hober>
webben: it doesn't exclude other WG documents, no
19:59
<webben>
Hmm. What are the other change proposals asking for then? namespaced elements?
19:59
<hober>
yup
20:00
<webben>
hmm... how about something like including musical markup inline in HTML just like SVG and Math?
20:01
<hober>
is the expectation that browsers implement rendering such markup in some kind of useful way?
20:01
<hober>
if so, then the people speccing said markup should coordinate with the people working on HTML
20:01
<webben>
well, I guess in a DE model, browsers that implement that extension would, yeah.
20:02
<webben>
And, yeah, you can make the counterargument that it would be better for browsermakers etc. to come together and agree a standard.
20:03
<webben>
But it is a use-case that's not served out of the box - possibly 3d markup and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_Markup_Language would be further examples.
20:04
<webben>
it's not that hard to think of ways to extend HTML, it's just a question of whether allowing incorporation of arbitrary elements is the way to do that, I guess.
20:23
<hober>
this is what I have so far: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/User:Eoconnor/ISSUE-41 comments, feedback, etc. very welcome
20:40
<hsivonen>
webben: those are theoretical until a browser vendor shows interest in implementing one of those vocabs
21:03
<annevk>
hmm, so now we could switch html5lib to public domain
21:47
<annevk>
hober, drop "quite" from "quite-complex" :)
21:56
<hober>
ok