| 02:39 | <youdontmeanmuch> | hola, i'm working on a desktop application using web technologies using something like titanium desktop / adobe air |
| 02:40 | <youdontmeanmuch> | so i know that i have the most recent browsers (mostly webkit) |
| 02:40 | <youdontmeanmuch> | i'm structuring my application right now with markup |
| 02:40 | <youdontmeanmuch> | but right now i'm deciding what tags to use. with html5 comes with some nice tags focused for the web |
| 02:40 | <youdontmeanmuch> | such as <aside>, <nav> etc. |
| 02:40 | <youdontmeanmuch> | but i was wondering if it would be advisable to use my own tags |
| 02:40 | <youdontmeanmuch> | such as <region><component type="example-1"></component>....</region>, etc |
| 02:40 | <youdontmeanmuch> | does anybody know some cons or reasons i should go with using regular markup (div's with classes and id's)? |
| 03:41 | <hober> | why are some html5lib tokenizer tests double-escaped? |
| 10:09 | <zcorpan> | youdontmeanmuch: http://annevankesteren.nl/2010/09/generic-elements |
| 11:30 | <hsivonen> | AryehGregor: typo fixed. thanks |
| 11:32 | <hsivonen> | annevk: OpenJDK is GPLv2 with Classpath Exception. Android userland is Apache License 2.0, so I guess Google could use OpenJDK but then Android vendors would be required to publish their modifications to OpenJDK |
| 11:32 | <hsivonen> | annevk: currently, Android vendors only need to publish their kernel patches |
| 11:33 | <hsivonen> | Ms2ger: HTML5-compliant script execution landed for beta 7. The .async defaults to true thing landed immediately after beta 7 had been shipped. |
| 11:34 | <hsivonen> | tabatkins: About Google search thumbnails in Firefox 4, I reported the bug to Google via a Googler in August |
| 12:53 | <Dashiva> | What's the context here? http://twitter.com/fielding/status/3220658943172609 |
| 13:01 | <hsivonen> | Dashiva: Oracle is using GPLv2 in OpenJDK and they are suing Google over Android's Java-ish stack that an independent Apache-licensed impl. |
| 13:01 | <hsivonen> | Dashiva: GPLv3 has new Apache-inspired patent language |
| 13:01 | <hsivonen> | s/that/that is/ |
| 13:01 | <Dashiva> | Aha. Thanks |
| 13:05 | <gsnedders> | hsivonen: I thought the GPLv3 patent language only covered derivitives, so it wouldn't help in this case. |
| 13:06 | <hsivonen> | gsnedders: I'm not claiming anything about any facts. I'm just guessing what the context of the tweet is. |
| 13:06 | <hsivonen> | gsnedders: well, I am claiming that GPLv3's patent language is Apache-inspired, but I'm not claiming anything about what it says |
| 13:29 | Ms2ger | sighs |
| 13:47 | Ms2ger | hopes Ryosuke is happy now |
| 13:59 | <hsivonen> | Ms2ger: huh? do you change the spec explicitly to prevent script execution from createContextualFragment? |
| 13:59 | <hsivonen> | s/do/did/ |
| 14:00 | <Ms2ger> | Ugh, I guess I missed "un" |
| 14:06 | <hsivonen> | Hixie: using < and > as access keys seems like a combination of an a11y and i18n problem in the making |
| 15:09 | <hober> | I wish accesskey="" took Emacs' `kbd' syntax. :) |
| 19:57 | <schalkn> | Hi all |
| 19:57 | <schalkn> | Is there any decent documentation on the JavaScript Audio API? |
| 19:59 | <Ms2ger> | Which API? |
| 20:01 | <schalkn> | I know there are methods to stop, play/pause etc. audio that runs via the audio tag. I was wondering if there is more to it than that, besides Mozilla's stuff, like an actual API to work with audio in the browser |
| 20:03 | <schalkn> | I think this sorta might be it: http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/video.html#htmlmediaelement |
| 20:07 | <schalkn> | Well, not entirely |
| 20:10 | <Ms2ger> | And #htmlaudioelement |
| 20:15 | <Hixie> | hsivonen: the great thing about accesskey="" is that it should actually support this pretty well now |
| 20:43 | <schalkn> | Does anyone know of a central searchable location of browser release notes? |
| 20:43 | <schalkn> | Say for example, you want to know which is the earliest version of a browser to support a specific tag. You could head over to the site and search for, for example audio, firefox |
| 20:45 | <_o> | http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#audio http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#audio https://wiki.mozilla.org/Audio_Data_API http://audioscene.org/ |
| 20:51 | <schalkn> | thanks _o |
| 20:54 | <Ms2ger> | schalkn, something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layout_engines_%28HTML5%29 ? |
| 21:48 | <schalkn> | Thanks Ms2ger, thanks looks like a really awesome resource |