| 00:12 | <odinho> | Is there a testtwf irc channel? |
| 00:14 | <odinho> | Little webapps presence :/ |
| 01:11 | <Hixie> | can anyone think of a way i can get firefox to render a glyph from the zapfino ornaments collection? |
| 01:12 | <Hixie> | maybe via svg or something? |
| 01:12 | <Hixie> | some way to convert it to a path? |
| 01:13 | <heycam> | in theory you have altGlyph in SVG which should let you select an arbitrary glyph, but in practice it's underspecified and doesn't work |
| 01:13 | <heycam> | can't think of another way to select glyphs from a font... |
| 01:15 | <Hixie> | maybe exporting the glyph as pdf somehow and using an iframe? |
| 01:15 | <Hixie> | this doesn't have to be pretty, it's for a quick hack to do a print run |
| 01:16 | <heycam> | in pdf you can select arbitrary glyphs (though don't ask me how) |
| 01:16 | <Hixie> | well i can select the glyph in pages.app, and print to pdf from there |
| 01:16 | <heycam> | ah |
| 01:17 | <heycam> | or you could just open it up in font forge, add a cmap entry to the glyph (maybe from a PUA code point) so you can select it in html |
| 01:17 | <Hixie> | hm, that's an idea |
| 01:19 | <Hixie> | bummer, iframing a pdf shows all kinds of UI in gecko |
| 01:19 | Hixie | goes to get font forge |
| 01:20 | <heycam> | don't know if inkscape can select arbitrary glyphs from fonts; you could do that too, then convert to a patch and save as svg |
| 01:20 | <heycam> | illustrator likely can |
| 01:21 | <Hixie> | inkscape will be easier than font forge, looks like |
| 01:21 | <heycam> | if you can get the text in there. I'm not convinced you'll be able to. |
| 01:22 | <Hixie> | 83MB, jesus, vectors are getting heavier |
| 01:49 | <Hixie> | heycam: i made version about 20 times bigger as a png and scaled it down instead... |
| 01:49 | <Hixie> | we'll see if that prints at full res |
| 01:58 | <heycam> | ha fair enough |
| 02:21 | <odinho> | $ GET -Sseu "http://www1.w3c-test.org/webappsec/tests/cors/submitted/opera/staging/resources/cors-makeheader.php?get_value=a&origin=http%3A%2F%2Fw3c-test.org%001"; |
| 02:21 | <odinho> | Uh, that one doesn't even return the Access-Control-Accept-Origin: header. Something even more broken than before? :| |
| 02:22 | <odinho> | Maybe some PHP reviewing stuff that makes the old version exist on the server, but not a new one. |
| 07:40 | <Hixie> | hah |
| 07:41 | <Hixie> | i was just looking through old bugs and we got at least 7 separate bugs about the term "outlinee" over the years |
| 07:41 | <jgraham> | This is what happens if you willfully violate English? |
| 07:43 | <Ms2ger> | Good morning |
| 07:58 | <Hixie> | jgraham: it was fine english |
| 07:59 | <Ms2ger> | Of course it was |
| 08:01 | <Hixie> | sweet, broke 200 bugs (on the way down) |
| 08:01 | <Hixie> | lowest point since jan |
| 08:08 | Ms2ger | cheers Hixie on |
| 10:30 | <Ms2ger> | !summon zcorpan |
| 14:30 | <MikeSmith> | hsivonen: bugzilla.validator.nu is unresponsive |
| 14:36 | <Ms2ger> | "The createTBody() method must create a new tbody element, insert it immediately after the last tbody element in the table element, ..." |
| 14:36 | <Ms2ger> | Does "in" refer to children or descendants? |
| 17:01 | <jgraham> | Ms2ger: Children I expect, but you are right that isn't up to Hixie's usual standards |
| 17:01 | <Ms2ger> | You don't happen to have tests for it? :) |
| 17:14 | <jgraham> | I don't think so |
| 17:43 | <Ms2ger> | "If you're a student and want to hack some #scala applied to #rdf and #ldp" |
| 17:43 | <Ms2ger> | Sounds like something that would constant-fold to "If false" |
| 17:46 | <gsnedders> | Ms2ger: I believe Opera to have exactly zero tests for createTBody. :) |
| 17:46 | <Ms2ger> | gsnedders, does it implement createTBody? :) |
| 17:46 | <jgraham> | wtf is ldp? |
| 17:47 | <Ms2ger> | Lunatic Distributed Processing? |
| 17:47 | <gsnedders> | Ms2ger: Dunno. |
| 17:48 | <Ms2ger> | I guess I should write some |
| 17:50 | <Ms2ger> | And I guess nobody wants to review https://github.com/Ms2ger/web-platform-tests/commit/c82dc1b47c8762a60a6c70b5140dcaa5f97a8f5d |
| 17:52 | <jgraham> | Ms2ger: No pull request? |
| 17:52 | <Ms2ger> | I thought I made one... |
| 17:52 | <jgraham> | Also, there is a special place in hell reserved for people that rebind "/" on their websites |
| 17:52 | <jgraham> | Yes github, I'm looking at you |
| 17:53 | <Ms2ger> | https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/45 |
| 17:57 | <jgraham> | How about I ask for a formatting change and we try again :) |
| 17:58 | <Ms2ger> | Hmm? |
| 18:00 | <jgraham> | Linebreaks between the test()s |
| 18:01 | <jgraham> | There should have been critic mail |
| 18:01 | <jgraham> | Dunno what happened to it |
| 18:01 | <jgraham> | Oh, there was |
| 18:04 | <Ms2ger> | "New(ish) Review" |
| 18:04 | <Ms2ger> | That's a first |
| 18:08 | <Ms2ger> | jgraham, there you go |
| 18:13 | <GPHemsley> | Does anyone know if there is a standards-track (or other proprietary) equivalent to the CSS -webkit-font-smoothing property? or have any other opinions on the property? |
| 18:14 | <GPHemsley> | Similarly, for (-ms-)zoom? |
| 18:31 | <Ms2ger> | jgraham, did you have any more comments? ;) |
| 18:35 | <jgraham> | Ms2ger: Possibly? I haven't finished yet |
| 18:35 | <jgraham> | :) |
| 18:35 | <jgraham> | Also I am going to take a break now |
| 18:36 | <Ms2ger> | Dammit :) |
| 18:36 | <Ms2ger> | Thanks, though :) |
| 20:28 | <zewt> | dear bugzilla, stop redirecting me to "process_bug.cgi" whenever i submit; what kind of ancient nonsense is that, anyway |
| 20:29 | <zewt> | ... https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20141 the fact that I actually have to argue against this insanity chips away at my hope for the web some more |
| 20:30 | <zewt> | "we should make console.log automatically bound to console!" why? "to save 14 characters of typing!" that's crazy "what are the use cases for not doing this?" sigh |
| 20:31 | <Hixie> | if you have two Console objects, is there any state in them that is different between them? |
| 20:31 | <zewt> | calling console.log on another window logs to that window's console |
| 20:32 | <zewt> | that is, it's not effectively a static method |
| 20:32 | <Hixie> | well then how can it be bound |
| 20:32 | <zewt> | but the proposal here is to basically act as if you did console.log = console.log.bind(console) |
| 20:33 | <Hixie> | so console1.apply(console2, 'test') would go to console2? |
| 20:33 | <zewt> | and i'm saying nothing in the platform does that and stop adding weird new things to save a little typing in uncommon cases |
| 20:33 | <Hixie> | or console1? |
| 20:33 | <Hixie> | er |
| 20:33 | <zewt> | i don't know, the proposal hasn't been fleshed out that much (and I'm not fleshing it out, since I'm arguing against it) |
| 20:33 | <Hixie> | console1.log.apply(console2 |
| 20:34 | <Hixie> | i'd use this as an argument. |
| 20:34 | <Hixie> | good luck! |
| 20:34 | <zewt> | if they did it i would hope it would just piggyback on .bind's semantics though |
| 20:34 | <zewt> | heh |
| 21:08 | Philip` | gets confused by reading comment #7 without noticing the date |
| 23:02 | <Hixie> | MikeSmith: you around? |
| 23:02 | <MikeSmith> | yup |
| 23:02 | <Hixie> | MikeSmith: can you change the default assignee for the webvtt component to nessy? |
| 23:03 | <MikeSmith> | sure |
| 23:03 | <MikeSmith> | will do right now |
| 23:03 | <Hixie> | thank you sir! |
| 23:05 | <MikeSmith> | done now |
| 23:05 | <Hixie> | woot |
| 23:05 | <MikeSmith> | should I change the assignee on the open bugs? |
| 23:05 | <Hixie> | i can do it |
| 23:05 | <Hixie> | it'll let me make sure i don't have any unexpected ones |
| 23:08 | <Hixie> | yay, down to 169 bugs |