| 00:01 | <Hixie> | hey we let _you_ edit |
| 00:01 | Hixie | ducks |
| 01:53 | <GPHemsley> | Specs todo could probably use a good audit |
| 02:02 | <zewt> | add it to the spec todo |
| 02:04 | <GPHemsley> | heh |
| 02:05 | <boogyman> | haha |
| 07:39 | <annevk> | odinho_: can you look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=869874 please |
| 08:41 | <dekiss> | good morning all |
| 09:19 | <dkiss> | is this complete list of http-equiv attribute posible values? http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/ms537417(v=vs.85).aspx |
| 09:28 | <dekiss> | which is best way to cntrol how browsers cahce my web page? |
| 11:05 | <odinho_> | annevk: Yeah, I took a look at it, but I have not a full debugging setup since I've changed computers since moving to Desktop. |
| 11:07 | <odinho> | I will do that when back at work again where I probably should set up a system again. |
| 11:30 | <dekiss> | what I don't understand about expire http header is this, someone visit my webpage and current date is after the expires date on my webpage so he gets fresh copy but then he visits again in the next day and he again takes fresh copy? or his browser knows that he has good copy on hdd? |
| 12:29 | <annevk> | odinho: cool |
| 15:27 | <GPHemsley> | SimonSapin: Were you aware of http://greenbytes.de/tech/tc/datauri/ ? (It's from jreschke.) |
| 15:27 | GPHemsley | enjoys talking to people through logs they're unlikely to read. |
| 16:07 | <odinho> | GPHemsley: annevk seems to read logs (hi there, man!) |
| 16:18 | <GPHemsley> | odinho: Yeah, but he's the only one I know of. |
| 16:18 | Ms2ger | raises hand |
| 16:19 | <GPHemsley> | good to know |
| 16:21 | <GPHemsley> | Help me out with phrasing here: " Once a MIME type has been extracted according to the syntax of its containing protocol, it must be parsed in order to obtain the information it contains. " |
| 16:21 | <Ms2ger> | What are you trying to accomplish? :) |
| 16:22 | <GPHemsley> | I want to tell anyone implementing the "parse a MIME type" algorithm that they're to handle any protocol-specific stuff (like URL encoding, or multi-line unescaping) before they run the algorithm, and that the only way to extract information from a MIME type is by running this algorithm |
| 16:25 | <Ms2ger> | Mm |
| 16:26 | <Ms2ger> | I'd think the first part should be obvious from the layering |
| 16:27 | <GPHemsley> | you'd think, but you wouldn't always be right ;) |
| 16:37 | <odinho> | I'm always on, and I frequently read backlog. |
| 16:37 | <odinho> | That's the same as log reading, only without the irritating log reading. |
| 16:38 | <dekiss> | guys did I talked to real Hixie yesterday? |
| 16:39 | <tantek> | dekiss, identity on IRC, it is a challenge isn't it? |
| 16:40 | <dekiss> | yep :) |
| 16:40 | <dekiss> | he said he is he was admin here but never replied to my mail i sent him test email and asked for him to reply as I see he is really him :) |
| 16:41 | <tantek> | he gets a lot of email :) |
| 16:56 | <GPHemsley> | odinho: Indeed. |
| 16:56 | <GPHemsley> | dekiss: If we tell you no, will you stop asking? |
| 17:01 | <GPHemsley> | Ms2ger: No tips? |
| 17:02 | <Ms2ger> | Can't come up with anything, I'm afraid |
| 17:03 | <dekiss> | GPHemsley im not sure |
| 17:04 | <Ms2ger> | dekiss, and yes, Hixie is Hixie |
| 17:08 | <dekiss> | have you edited some html css content or something else |
| 18:49 | <zcorpan> | GPHemsley: for parameters, you can test parsing in other headers than content-type. For instance, Link: <foo.css>; type=stylesheet; title=etc |
| 18:49 | <zcorpan> | GPHemsley: or Content-Disposition: download; filename="..." |
| 18:51 | <zcorpan> | er, attachment |
| 18:51 | <zcorpan> | Refresh: ... |
| 18:51 | <zcorpan> | Set-Cookie: |
| 19:02 | <Ms2ger> | Set-Cookie2 |
| 19:02 | Ms2ger | ducks |
| 19:08 | <GPHemsley> | zcorpan: I was wondering about that... are all HTTP headers parsed the same? Because this algorithm assumes it only applies specifically to MIME types. |
| 19:12 | <zcorpan> | GPHemsley: i don't know, but it might be worth looking into |
| 19:12 | <GPHemsley> | perhaps |
| 19:12 | <zcorpan> | it would make sense to parse them the same |
| 19:13 | <GPHemsley> | in some ways yes and in some ways no |
| 19:13 | <GPHemsley> | MIME types are (now) defined independent of HTTP |
| 19:13 | <GPHemsley> | and I don't know the extent of coordination between the two |
| 19:13 | <GPHemsley> | (since HTTP 1.1 was defined) |
| 19:16 | <zcorpan> | i'm more interested in whether current implementations use the same parser for all headers |
| 19:26 | <GPHemsley> | I don't think they do |
| 19:26 | <GPHemsley> | but that's just my anecdotal impression |
| 19:27 | <GPHemsley> | (since I know I've look at MIME type-specific code) |
| 19:27 | <GPHemsley> | +ed |
| 19:37 | GPHemsley | wonders why IETF has so often chosen to abbreviate "parameter" as "parm" instead of "param"... |
| 19:37 | <GPHemsley> | it makes me hungry... |
| 19:42 | <GPHemsley> | Ms2ger: Is there a way to make anolis use a different timezone than UTC? |
| 19:44 | <Ms2ger> | GPHemsley, not at this point; patches welcome |
| 19:44 | <GPHemsley> | Where in the code might that go? |
| 19:44 | <Ms2ger> | anolislib/processes/sub.py |
| 19:45 | <Ms2ger> | Where it says time.gmtime() now :) |
| 19:59 | <dekiss> | should I wrap my website in article element? |
| 19:59 | <dekiss> | if I want to make in the left side logo and in right some picture or s;lideshow should I put invisible header element? |
| 20:01 | <dekiss> | in which element should I wrap my website? |
| 20:02 | <Ms2ger> | body |
| 20:02 | <dekiss> | :) |
| 20:02 | <dekiss> | other, |
| 20:02 | <dekiss> | so I can put my website in middle of screen |
| 20:02 | <dekiss> | div? or |
| 20:04 | <dekiss> | I cant put body in the middle, that way I must put every element in the middle separately |
| 20:04 | <dekiss> | and I will not have control over webwite |
| 20:13 | <GPHemsley> | Ms2ger: Not the best code, but there you go. |
| 20:16 | <dekiss> | why when I put h1 and h2 heading in hgroup element they are boh same size? |
| 21:00 | <GPHemsley> | Hixie: What was the difficulty in defining a "resource" again? |
| 21:11 | <dekiss> | should I give ids and classes to html5 semantic section element like header nav section article? |
| 22:08 | GPHemsley | grumbles something about bug reporters who don't accept bugmail |
| 22:39 | <dekiss> | is it ok to put articles in sections? |