| 00:14 | <jyasskin> | smaug____: false, on Safari 9.1.2 |
| 04:43 | <annevk> | Also in Safari Technology Preview (which also claims to be 9.1.2) |
| 10:42 | <smaug____> | hmm, what is :focus-within |
| 10:43 | <smaug____> | oh, I see |
| 11:42 | <Ms2ger> | annevk, could you have a look at https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Afetch ? |
| 12:48 | <jgraham> | brexit is making TPAC expensive :( |
| 13:52 | <smaug____> | mounir: ping |
| 13:55 | <smaug____> | or who might know about chromecast stuff |
| 14:14 | <nox> | Is there any NoInterfaceObject in the platform that is not used as a mixin? |
| 14:15 | <Domenic> | nox: I think there are several that are mistakenly that way but we've been trying to stamp them out |
| 14:15 | <nox> | Ok thanks. |
| 17:32 | <annevk> | https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161364 WebKit is implementing the URL Standard \o/ |
| 17:33 | <annevk> | New Safari preview had tons of DOM fixes |
| 17:33 | <annevk> | Very cool |
| 17:34 | <wanderview> | also appears STP 12 has Response.body ReadableStream |
| 17:34 | <wanderview> | Domenic: ^^^ |
| 17:47 | <annevk> | And fetch() by default |
| 18:01 | <KiChjang> | which browser currently is the most standards-compliant? |
| 18:10 | <annevk> | Could someone maybe get in touch with https://twitter.com/reconbot/status/768453636930297856? |
| 18:10 | <annevk> | Seems there's interest in rebooting the serial work… |
| 18:11 | <annevk> | KiChjang: not sure there's a good answer to that |
| 18:13 | <annevk> | I guess I can reply to the tweet |
| 18:13 | <nox> | KiChjang: MOSAIC |
| 18:45 | <smaug____> | igrigorik: is preload supposed to be supported in shadow DOM? |
| 18:50 | <Domenic> | I wonder what the overlap is between the serial port API and Web USB. jyasskin have you seen https://whatwg.github.io/serial/ ? I guess it's something marcos started a while back that didn't make it past incubation? |
| 18:53 | <Domenic> | That is great about WebKit and the URL spec |
| 19:01 | <smaug____> | annevk: what does "report" mean in https://fetch.spec.whatwg.org/#concept-request-destination ? |
| 19:03 | <smaug____> | lovely, preload spec misses the main part, how the cache actually should work :) "Add request to preload response cache (TODO). " |
| 19:04 | <smaug____> | good that the "spec" is already implemented |
| 19:04 | <jyasskin> | Domenic: Yes, serial is a more limited API than WebUSB, but also doesn't have its security feature of requiring the device to opt in. |
| 19:05 | <Domenic> | jyasskin: yeah, that was about my guess. I suppose we should probably try to redirect some of that community interest around serial into Web USB... I think people stumbled upon the repo without being aware of the larger picture. |
| 19:06 | <jyasskin> | There are also ways to connect serial things over non-USB transports, so it's not exactly replaced by WebUSB. |
| 19:08 | <Domenic> | Hmm I see, I wonder if people are using that |
| 19:08 | <Domenic> | (I originally was super confused by the word "serial" in all this, five years ago when I first heard about this in the Node.js community. I was like... didn't we get rid of serial ports in the 1990s?) |
| 19:11 | <rniwa> | Domenic, annevk: did you see https://github.com/w3c/webcomponents/issues/560 ? |
| 19:11 | <Domenic> | rniwa: yeah. Not sure what I think about it yet. |
| 19:11 | <rniwa> | Domenic: this is a big blocker for us |
| 19:11 | <rniwa> | Domenic: In fact, we probably need to violate this part of the spec if the spec doesn't change |
| 19:12 | <Domenic> | rniwa: OK, I can try to prioritize higher. I need to sit down and figure out if I care of if I don't; if the latter then we should just change to make it easier for WebKit, and if the former I'd like to have some discussion first :) |
| 19:13 | <rniwa> | Domenic: ok, thanks |
| 21:23 | <botond_> | Is there an editor that syntax-highlights Bikeshed (.bs) files? |
| 21:26 | <jyasskin> | botond: I use web-mode in emacs. |
| 21:27 | <jyasskin> | It doesn't highlight Bikeshed's dedicated syntax, but the HTML's nice. |
| 21:29 | <TabAtkins> | botond: Included in the Bikeshed repo is an (out-of-date, but still useful) .tmLanguague file for Bikeshed. A lot of editors can use that. |
| 21:30 | <botond> | TabAtkins: do you know of an open-source editor (not Sublime or Textmate) that can use it? |
| 21:30 | <TabAtkins> | I only use Sublime, so no, I don't. |
| 21:31 | <TabAtkins> | Looks like Ace and Atom have converters for tmLanguage |
| 21:34 | <botond> | TabAtkins: i guess it's not the easiest language to highlight, containing as it does snippets of various other languages |
| 21:34 | <TabAtkins> | Meh. Depends on how high-fidelity you want. |
| 21:34 | <TabAtkins> | Getting basic tag support for HTML is sufficient for me. |
| 21:35 | <botond> | TabAtkins: i tried the .tmLanguage file in an evaluation version of sublime, and it does help. thanks! |