| 00:00 | <MikeSmith> | for the checker we are unfortunately still using a custom media-condition/media-query parser |
| 00:00 | <MikeSmith> | https://github.com/validator/validator/blob/master/src/nu/validator/datatype/MediaQuery.java#L116 |
| 00:00 | <MikeSmith> | really need to replace that |
| 00:00 | <MikeSmith> | ...but not this week |
| 02:00 | <kochi> | who is the person that is knowledgeable about querySelector() API? |
| 02:00 | <kochi> | I want to consult someone about https://github.com/whatwg/dom/issues/463 |
| 02:17 | <MikeSmith> | kochi: TabAtkins I would think |
| 02:18 | <MikeSmith> | or else depending on specifics, he could point you to somebody who knows more-particular details |
| 02:18 | <kochi> | MikeSmith: thanks for suggestion. |
| 02:19 | <kochi> | I'm not familiar with the birth of querySelector() in the DOM spec after jQuery. |
| 02:19 | <TabAtkins> | I'll respond tomorrow |
| 02:19 | <kochi> | Oh, thanks! |
| 02:19 | <TabAtkins> | Off work right now 😀 |
| 02:19 | <kochi> | good night! |
| 02:21 | <MikeSmith> | kochi: also from Chrome team I wonder if Dan Beam might have suggestions (but reckon he’s away now too) |
| 02:25 | <kochi> | MikeSmith: thx, I feel strange I got advice about colleagues from outside the company :) |
| 02:25 | <MikeSmith> | haha |
| 02:39 | <domfarolino> | For someone who knows very little about political tension with W3C and EME could I get a little clarification on what is happening with DRM stuff? Random tweet indicate that EME is being baked into the official W3C HTML spec yet it is clearly getting a ton of pushback |
| 02:39 | <domfarolino> | Will we be seeing changes to the whatwg/html spec as a result of this EME DRM stuff? orrr.....? |
| 02:40 | <domfarolino> | apologies if that all sounds real naive..admittedly I have little context |
| 03:36 | <kochi> | I'm wondering who is managing whatwg.org... according to whois.net, its Registry Expiry Date is 2016-03-09T02:01:33Z, though it is Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited |
| 03:37 | <kochi> | and is autoRenewPeriod - |
| 04:11 | <MikeSmith> | kochi: Ian is |
| 04:11 | <MikeSmith> | Hixie |
| 04:11 | <kochi> | will ping him. |
| 04:16 | <MikeSmith> | I just now did |
| 04:16 | <MikeSmith> | but feel free to ping him directly too |
| 08:20 | <annevk> | domfarolino: thus far EME is a standalone specification |
| 08:20 | <annevk> | domfarolino: which extends HTML |
| 08:21 | <annevk> | domfarolino: I doubt it would ever merge into the main spec |
| 08:23 | <domfarolino> | annevk: ok thanks. Lotta controversy around it, is it something WHATWG doesn't really support? Again, I don't know much about it all but I've almost exclusively heard negative things lol |
| 08:24 | <annevk> | domfarolino: not sure WHATWG has a position, but a couple of us did publish https://blog.whatwg.org/drm-and-web-security |
| 08:25 | <annevk> | domfarolino: which is also negative btw |
| 08:25 | <botie> | okay, annevk. |
| 08:25 | <annevk> | botie: yw |
| 08:25 | <botie> | annevk: what? |
| 08:25 | <annevk> | botie: shrug |
| 08:25 | <botie> | annevk: excuse me? |
| 08:26 | <annevk> | domfarolino: the positive spin afaict is basically that it's better than plugins and there's more sandboxing opportunity, but that never really addresses that plugins were on their way out anyway and that sandboxing is not guaranteed whatsoever by the EME specification |
| 08:27 | <annevk> | domfarolino: or that now more so than with plugins we've enshrined platform-specific solutions |
| 08:40 | <domfarolino> | annevk: thanks I'll read that post. Ah ok. Thanks for the context, appreciated. Yeah from what I can tell it seems largely corporation-backed which is...interesting. |
| 08:44 | <annevk> | domfarolino: the whole thing is very much Hollywood-driven, by proxy |
| 08:46 | <annevk> | domfarolino: that's why you get Comcast praising W3C and the EFF being appalled |
| 08:51 | <domfarolino> | annevk: Ah yeah I think I read something about their strong opposition, yet the spec being approved anyways etc. |
| 08:55 | <annevk> | domfarolino: if you want to learn more about what it actually is https://hsivonen.fi/eme/ is good |
| 12:53 | <MikeSmith> | JakeA: thanks for https://stackoverflow.com/questions/44800431/caching-effect-on-cors-no-access-control-allow-origin-header-is-present-on-th/45081016#45081016 |
| 12:53 | <JakeA> | no problem! |
| 12:53 | <MikeSmith> | annevk: ⬆️ 💫 |
| 12:55 | <MikeSmith> | JakeA: I wonder if https://fetch.spec.whatwg.org/#cors-protocol-and-http-caches should be updated to reflect that guidance? |
| 12:55 | <MikeSmith> | specifically, to say to use Vary: Origin, Access-Control-Request-Headers, Access-Control-Request-Method |
| 12:56 | <MikeSmith> | instead of use Vary: Origin |
| 12:57 | <JakeA> | I think that makes sense |
| 12:58 | <MikeSmith> | OK will create a PR |
| 13:24 | <MikeSmith> | JakeA: https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/pull/564 |
| 13:25 | <JakeA> | MikeSmith: +1, thanks! |
| 13:28 | <ytrezq> | Hello, which image format I should use in order to display stereoscopic pictures on stereoscopic capable monitor ? |
| 15:53 | <Domenic> | jolvera: it's live!! |
| 15:54 | <jolvera> | what what |
| 15:54 | <jolvera> | oh nice! |
| 15:56 | <gsnedders> | https://github.com/w3c/WebPlatformWG/issues/86 — marking old W3C HTML RECs as Obsolete (per the 2017 process) |
| 15:58 | <Domenic> | "A good start" |
| 16:37 | <domfarolino> | annevk: thanks for the info/link! |