| 03:54 | <mpt> | annevk, perhaps the problem is that whatwg.org says "Membership is by invitation only, and consists of a number of representatives from various browser manufacturers." |
| 03:57 | <mpt> | That's trivially untrue (Dean Edwards isn't a representative of a browser manufacturer), and seems to foreclose the possibility of extending membership to (say) a Web accessibility expert. |
| 04:12 | <mpt> | I'll e-mail the list to that effect |
| 09:34 | <annevk> | mpt, cool |
| 11:04 | <Jero> | in the before head insertion mode ( http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/section-tree-construction.html#before2 ), wouldn't it be better to combine the 4th, 5th and 7th cases? |
| 11:05 | <Jero> | they all require the same steps to be taken |
| 11:06 | <annevk> | -> whatwg⊙wo |
| 13:59 | <annevk> | I think we should rename WHATWG members to WHATWG Advisory Board or something |
| 14:12 | <MikeSmith> | which WHATWG members would those be? ... I mean, if somebody where to subscribe to the WHATG mailing list today, would that make that person a WHATWG member? |
| 14:16 | <Dashiva> | Think it's the steering commitee |
| 14:20 | <annevk> | MikeSmith, that makes them a contributor |
| 14:22 | <MikeSmith> | annevk - I see ... even if they've never actually contributed anything? |
| 14:22 | <MikeSmith> | ... and is there a list of the actual members (steering committee) anywhere? |
| 14:22 | <annevk> | see http://www.whatwg.org/charter |
| 14:22 | <annevk> | (bottom) |
| 14:26 | <MikeSmith> | wonder why hsivonen's never been invited to be a member |
| 14:26 | <mpt> | annevk, +1 |
| 14:26 | mpt | hopes he's allowed to do that on IRC |
| 14:28 | <annevk> | MikeSmith, the only purpose of being member is to be able to revoke the editor from his rights... |
| 14:28 | <annevk> | MikeSmith, if that's ever necessary we have some real issues... |
| 14:29 | <MikeSmith> | annevk - I see (and notice you're not a "member" either ...) |
| 14:29 | <MikeSmith> | does seem like that list of people should be titled something other than Member |
| 14:30 | <MikeSmith> | given that key contributors aren't in the list |
| 14:31 | <annevk> | yeah, the term is used in a potentially confusing way |
| 14:37 | MikeSmith | just now notices that on Planet Intertwingly that if you hover over a blogger name in the right-hand list of feeds, it shows you titles of latest entries for that blog |
| 18:03 | <annevk> | XML5 tokenizer.py is 1300 lines... |
| 21:57 | kingryan | is working on html5lib |
| 21:57 | <kingryan> | anyone know the best place to get 'chardet' for python? |
| 22:00 | <Lachy> | kingryan, http://chardet.feedparser.org/ |
| 22:00 | <kingryan> | Lachy: thanks |
| 22:01 | <kingryan> | the svn trunk of the python impl also appears to have syntax errors |
| 22:14 | <annevk> | really? |
| 22:15 | <kingryan> | yeah, only if you don't have simplejson installed, though |
| 22:15 | <kingryan> | otherwise you'll never encounter it |
| 22:15 | <kingryan> | http://code.google.com/p/html5lib/issues/detail?id=40 |
| 22:16 | <annevk> | oh ok |
| 22:20 | <kingryan> | installing simplejson made the error go away, but I figured it was worth it to record the issue still |
| 22:24 | <annevk> | I suppose we could make the tests that rely on that optional... |
| 22:52 | <annevk> | http://jeff.cutsinger.org/news/10/Error-Handling |
| 23:40 | <Jero> | Could someone please explain to me why TWO character streams are created when parsing isindex elements? http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/section-tree-construction.html#isindex |
| 23:42 | <zcorpan_> | Jero: copy-paste error on Hixie's part? |
| 23:42 | <zcorpan_> | or wait |
| 23:43 | <Jero> | not sure, because it explicitly says in the description of the streams "The two streams of character tokens together should..." |
| 23:44 | <zcorpan_> | perhaps in some languages you would have the input in the middle or before? |
| 23:46 | <Jero> | hmm, yes, that's probably it |
| 23:46 | <Jero> | http://he.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%95%D7%97%D7%93:Userlogin&returnto=1904 |
| 23:47 | <Philip`> | That text looks like it's still in front of the input box |
| 23:47 | <Philip`> | (just with 'in front' being 'on the right') |
| 23:47 | <zcorpan_> | indeed |
| 23:48 | <zcorpan_> | RTL text still has the same source order |
| 23:48 | <Jero> | oh yeah, you're right |
| 23:48 | <zcorpan_> | although the second stream of text might just be a POP BIDI character |
| 23:49 | <zcorpan_> | "RTL OVERRIDE ...text...", <input>, "POP BIDI" |
| 23:51 | <Jero> | hmm, yeah, maybe |
| 23:51 | <zcorpan_> | ask Hixie :) |
| 23:52 | <Jero> | yeah, i'll send him an email :p |
| 23:52 | <Jero> | or would it be better to email the mailinglist? |
| 23:53 | <Philip`> | Seems slightly odd that <isindex prompt> isn't supported |
| 23:53 | <Philip`> | (but I guess that's because nobody uses it in practice) |
| 23:53 | <Philip`> | (but I'd have thought they would, otherwise they'd get totally inconsistent renderings) |
| 23:54 | <zcorpan_> | i guess we'll know when some browser vendor tries to implement this :) |
| 23:55 | <zcorpan_> | Jero: you're implementing <isindex> in ph5p? :) |
| 23:55 | <Jero> | yup |
| 23:55 | <zcorpan_> | cool |
| 23:56 | <Jero> | i'm working my way down in the tree construction process now |
| 23:56 | <zcorpan_> | i checked it out the other day |
| 23:56 | <zcorpan_> | seems you have made some progress |
| 23:56 | <Jero> | thanks |
| 23:56 | <zcorpan_> | good work 8) |
| 23:57 | <Jero> | i hope it'll be good :p |
| 23:59 | <zcorpan_> | i mentioned ph5p at my presentation |